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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


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KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I was just wondering how many others Kim has ripped off.

Think they'd come forward? Of course, not. As the old saying goes:

SHE HAS RIGHTS: HE HAS RESPONSIBILITIES.

101 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:05 AM PDT by Alia
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To: OakOak

It's now clear why Kim did not try to drop Mangum off at the police station and tried to palm her off to the Kroger guard. And why she called 911 to sic the cops on the guys and then sped away.

She must have had an arrest warrant out for her probation violation and wanted to avoid the authorities at all costs.


102 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:19 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Carolinamom

Nancy Grace isn't stupid, plus she's an experienced lawyer...which makes her actions all the more inexcusable. (When she returns, she'll probably concentrate on Natalee.)


103 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:19 AM PDT by hershey
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Kim???


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=41220648


104 posted on 04/21/2006 3:48:01 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: hershey

Both Wednesday night and Thursday night, the sub host spent much more time on Natalee than DukeLax.


105 posted on 04/21/2006 3:48:02 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: maggief
Yikes! I'da asked for my money back too.

Who's she calling the little skinny one? Finnerty could kick her ass and her momma's too.

Notice how she chooses the guy that apparently wasn't even at the party? Finnerty must have a pretty tight alibi or Nifong would not have had her do that.

106 posted on 04/21/2006 3:49:25 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: OakOak

So she doesn't doubt her doubts beyond a shadow of a doubt?

"If you don't doubt beyond a shadow of a doubt that it fits, then you must, um, er, . . . . . never mind."


107 posted on 04/21/2006 3:50:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: maggief

Can't tell. I keep getting errors when I click that link..


108 posted on 04/21/2006 3:50:15 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

It's like pulling one thread and watching the whole sweater unravel. Meanwhile the DA just hopes he can string this out until the election. Talk about corrupt.


109 posted on 04/21/2006 3:50:42 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Locomotive Breath

Kim's Details
Status: Single
Here for: Networking, Friends
Hometown: okinawa, japan
Body type: 5' 5" / Slim / Slender
Ethnicity: Other
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Smoke / Drink: Yes / Yes
Children: Proud parent
Education: Some college
Occupation: entrepeneur
Income: $30,000 to $45,000

Kim's Networking
Modeling - Business - Other
I work closely with photographers who are working with new, hot, up and coming magazines... Always looking for beautiful, real faces to place in fashion spreads in magazines...

Kim's Companies
Roc-n-Roll Model Management
Triangle, 7 cities, North Carolina, Virginia US
Model Scout
East Coast


Kim's Blurbs
About me:
Beautiful, Natural, fiery, fierce, passionate, SEXY, CRAZY, COOL, Woman. I am as real as REAL gets. If you don't want to know the truth, don't ask me. I try to live everyday like its my last. I live by Karma's passage and the prayer of tomorrow. I was born where there is black sands and exotic lands. If you want to know more.... Just ask. Cuz, as I sit in the dark, I wonder What steps were taken to get here, What could I have done differently and where could my life have gone. Can I ever find that specific wrong turn or indecision? I must remind myself that i am who i am Because of this darkness which engulfs me. I must embrace and rejoice the darkness, Just as i do the light. It is with this understanding, that the truth will be revealed...


110 posted on 04/21/2006 3:51:26 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: maggief

"Hometown: okinawa, japan"

CITY WHERE OFFENDER BORN: OKINAWA, JAPAN


111 posted on 04/21/2006 3:52:38 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: abb

Another face missing in all this, whom you'd think would jump in with both feet...Al Sharpton. He must have smelled a rat. (Well, he's a serious fellow now, ran for President, he can't be mixed up with another Tawana Brawley.)


112 posted on 04/21/2006 3:53:03 AM PDT by hershey
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To: maggief

"work closely with photographers who are working with new, hot, up and coming magazines... Always looking for beautiful, real faces to place in fashion spreads in magazines..."

LOL and steal their 25K.


113 posted on 04/21/2006 3:53:59 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Military brat. Also explains why she doesn't have a North Carolina accent on the 911 tapes.


114 posted on 04/21/2006 3:54:16 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: abb

The night the subhost said Nancy had been delayed at the airport, she had a funny smile...as if this was a cover deal.


115 posted on 04/21/2006 3:54:45 AM PDT by hershey
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

She didn't include "payroll specialist." LOL




116 posted on 04/21/2006 3:55:19 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: maggief
uH, lol. Seems to fit; the myspace.com site very easily could be Kim and is quite revelatory.

Just read an article on Freep: Some Duke Professor claims most all professors were nutz. But also says that it's okay for artists to be depressed. They are super-okay people in any emotions they wish to have. lol.

117 posted on 04/21/2006 3:55:54 AM PDT by Alia
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To: maggief

How long do you think it will take for that myspace to disappear? We should start taking bets on how long it lasts.


118 posted on 04/21/2006 3:57:07 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

That's why I copied it here ... shhhhhhhhh! ;)


119 posted on 04/21/2006 3:58:13 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: eastforker

Eastforker.

Welcome! Thanks for the info Sir.


120 posted on 04/21/2006 4:01:00 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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