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Black And Tan Ice Cream Causes A Chill In Ireland (Ben & Jerry's)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-21-2006 | Tom Peterkin

Posted on 04/20/2006 7:29:35 PM PDT by blam

Black and Tan ice cream causes a chill in Ireland

By Tom Peterkin, Ireland Correspondent
(Filed: 21/04/2006)

An American ice cream maker has launched a brand that evokes the British militia that terrorised the Irish during the 1920s.

Ben and Jerry's began promoting its Black and Tan flavour - cream stout with a whirl of chocolate - this month, but said it was unaware of the connotations that the name has in Ireland.

The offending ice cream

The company, whose mission statement promotes "deep respect" for individuals, has apologised for any offence their latest product has caused to the Irish.

The Black and Tan ice cream is based on the alcoholic drink of the same name, which is made by mixing stout with pale ale.

But the phrase originates from the 8,000 ex-servicemen who went to Ireland to keep order as Britain attempted to control republican rebels.

The Black and Tans were recruited to support the Royal Irish Constabulary and their name came from the mixture of police uniforms and khaki that they wore.

In November 1920 they massacred 12 people at a Gaelic football match in Croke Park, Dublin. The killings were in response to the IRA murdering 14 undercover detectives.

Yesterday Michael Laffan, the head of history at University College Dublin, said: "The very name Black and Tan still has a resonance.

"This is something that would provoke a response and make hackles rise in some quarters, because they were a nasty group. They did carry out a lot of killings."

The ice cream is available in the United States but has yet to be launched internationally.

A spokesman for the Vermont-based ice cream maker, which is owned by Unilever, said: "We have had a small amount of contact from people letting us know how Black and Tan originated. We were not aware of that.

"It was named because it's a very popular drink in the US. It was released in the United States before being promoted for international use. That's now being discussed."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: benandjerrys; black; causes; chill; cream; england; ice; ireland; tan; uk
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1 posted on 04/20/2006 7:29:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

They thought they were making something that sounded like a beer, and insulted a nation instead. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of leftists.


2 posted on 04/20/2006 7:30:49 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: blam

Ah, like the Nova. Very nice. Always pays to do your research before releasing a product internationally.


3 posted on 04/20/2006 7:31:51 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: blam

The SOB's ought to be castrated - if they have any to start with - Obviously have no brains.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 7:32:47 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: SengirV

And adding more satisfaction to the embarrassment, Ben and Jerry's is owned by the frogs!


5 posted on 04/20/2006 7:32:57 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: SengirV

Do people in Ireland really get offended at this or is this the permanent offense crowd at it again?


6 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:09 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: blam

Ben & Jerry are black & blue from their Black & Tan.


7 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:27 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: blam

Is B&J's gonna introduce "Brownshirt" in Israel???


8 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:29 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: blam

Let's face it ... if the name of the drink isn't a problem why should the name of the ice cream?


9 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:47 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: blam

I was thinking "Coon hound" as in Black and tan coon hound.


10 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: blam

Idiots. How could they not know what black & tan would mean to the Irish?


11 posted on 04/20/2006 7:35:25 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Oh brother...


12 posted on 04/20/2006 7:36:38 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: El Conservador

They should change their name from Ben & Jerry's to Dumb & Dumber's.


13 posted on 04/20/2006 7:37:06 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: AmishDude
Do people in Ireland really get offended at this or is this the permanent offense crowd at it again?

The latter.

 

14 posted on 04/20/2006 7:38:56 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: blam

Yup. Idiots for sure.


15 posted on 04/20/2006 7:40:18 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: SuzyQue
I've always stayed away from Ben & Jerry's because I don't like their politics. Even though Unilever owns the company, I'm sure the original owners benefit from its profits.
16 posted on 04/20/2006 7:40:46 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: blam

LOL! Great post blam. As the other fellow said: couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of leftists!


17 posted on 04/20/2006 7:40:47 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Enterprise
They should change their name from Ben & Jerry's to Dumb & Dumber's.

They should change their name from Ben & Jerry's to Dumb & Dumber's. Fidel & Che's

18 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:13 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: Incorrigible

I figured as much. I know Irish who use "Black and Tan" with respect to beer and there's no flinching.

But I can still enjoy the Schadenfraude at B&J's expense.

Oh, and it doesn't seem to have been released in Ireland anyway.


19 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:42 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: blam
It's unbelievable that B&J didn't know about the connotations of Black and Tan.

However, a Black and Tan is a great beer drink & doesn't seem to offend any Irish drinkers (but, I repeat myself).

Pour the Guinness slowly over the light ale -- use something like a bent spoon, or ice-cream scoop to disperse the stream of Guinness -- and the result will be two distinct layers. Looks good -- tastes great.
20 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:51 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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