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Poland marks 63rd anniversary of WWII Warsaw ghetto uprising
canada.com ^ | Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Posted on 04/18/2006 11:53:15 AM PDT by lizol

Poland marks 63rd anniversary of WWII Warsaw ghetto uprising Canadian Press

Radek Sikorski and religious leaders of Poland's Jewish community, flanked by Jewish Second World War veterans, laid flowers and prayed Tuesday to mark the 63rd anniversary of the doomed Warsaw ghetto uprising.

Several dozen officials and local residents also lit candles and said the Kaddish, the Jewish prayer for the dead, at the monument to the heroes of the ghetto struggle during observances held on the eve of the anniversary.

On April 19, 1943, hundreds of young Jewish fighters took up arms in the first major act of armed civilian resistance against the Nazis, who invaded and occupied Poland in 1939.

The insurgents opted to fight the Nazis in the face of the German plan to exterminate the tens of thousands of Jews remaining in the ghetto.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antipolonism; holocaust; jewish; jews; poland; warsaw; warsawghetto; ww2
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1 posted on 04/18/2006 11:53:18 AM PDT by lizol
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To: SJackson

Ping


2 posted on 04/18/2006 11:53:39 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; Alexander Rubin; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

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3 posted on 04/18/2006 11:54:24 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: Alouette

Would have been nicer if the Polish underground had tried to help out, 63 years ago.

And nicer now if there were an apology for failing to do so.

(And when the Poles in the rest of Warsaw rose up two years later, and nobody came to help them, they got just what they had dished out to others.)


4 posted on 04/18/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Alouette



5 posted on 04/18/2006 12:00:11 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: CondorFlight

Would have been even nicer if the American Jewish diaspora had tried to help out, 63 years ago.


6 posted on 04/18/2006 12:01:37 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

7 posted on 04/18/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: CondorFlight
You may be interested.

http://www.savingjews.org/
8 posted on 04/18/2006 12:08:59 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: CondorFlight

Most of the able-bodied Poles were helping the Jews, by fighting against the Germans during the Battle of Britain, D-Day, North Africa, Monte Cassino.....

Poland never surrendered to Germany, there was NO Vichy Poland.


9 posted on 04/18/2006 12:11:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: lizol

Bottom line:

The camps could never have been placed in France.

France had an active underground and the camps, the transportation lines to them, and their garrisons would have been under constant attack.

Poland also had an active underground. Attacks on the RR lines? Harrassment of the garrisons? Zip! Nada.

Help for the Warsaw ghetto? 50 old (and some unworkable)
pistols.


10 posted on 04/18/2006 12:12:35 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

Uhh France was also a little bit closer to England than Poland was. It took flights from England to supply the French resistance.


11 posted on 04/18/2006 12:15:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: CondorFlight; dfwgator; lizol

Guys, cool down! What are you doing here? This is to remember the victims of the Ghetto uprising and not to blame those who didn´t stand up. I´m German, and I´ve asked myself what had I done during the Nazi time. The honest answer is, that I don´t know. Given I´d been educated the way I was I would not have participated in the Nazi party, but I don´t know whether I had had the strength to risk my life in the resistance.

Why do we call those who had this courage heroes? Because their actions were extra-ordinary. If it were ordinary, why should we call them heroes? I don´t blame anybody for being ordinary. The extra-ordinary behaviour needs our attention - be it in the evil sense or in the good sense.

So don´t engage in verbal fights about those who behaved ordinary. They don´t deserve to be blamed. The Nazis committed the atrocities.


12 posted on 04/18/2006 12:21:02 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: CondorFlight

These few Jews, who decided to fight in the ghetto didn't have any chances anyway. There was no sense to waste weapons for them.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 12:21:38 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: CondorFlight
"Poland also had an active underground. Attacks on the RR lines? Harrassment of the garrisons? Zip! Nada."

Could you explain your point ?
14 posted on 04/18/2006 12:23:03 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: lizol
Would have been even nicer if the American Jewish diaspora had tried to help out, 63 years ago.

Just curious, what do you think could have been done to save the Jews of Warsaw?
15 posted on 04/18/2006 12:25:34 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: CondorFlight

While the behavior of partisans toward Jews was often shameful, no one "deserved" what happened to Warsaw at the hands of Hitler and Stalin a year later, or to the AK for years afterward.


16 posted on 04/18/2006 12:27:24 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: lizol
What was done to Jews in Europe by Germans and others complicit during WW2 is a disgrace to all of humanity.

Pointing fingers and assigning blame now accomplishes nothing. Almost thirty years ago when I was in Germany the old timers I knew were still in denial about the Holocaust.

I lost a lot of respect for some of my neighbors back then and I realized that certain things do not change.

Lets just not allow it to happen again.

I will always support Israel and damn the Europeans who were part of the butchery of so many during that awful time.
17 posted on 04/18/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by Radix
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To: lizol

The relatively few Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto held off the Germans longer than the entire French Army.


18 posted on 04/18/2006 12:33:17 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: Radix
To listen to the ugly anti semitism here in America it's clear that not much has changed.

It's permissible for university professors to write books that appeal to the rest of the anti semites, the David Duke types.

Permissible for certain Churches to recommend divestiture from investments in Israel.

Equating palestinian terrorism with the bulldozing of the houses of terrorists.

19 posted on 04/18/2006 12:38:25 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: lizol

Worth a look -

http://www1.yadvashem.org/exhibitions/warsaw_ghetto/stroop_collection/stroop_1.html


20 posted on 04/18/2006 12:38:57 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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