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Big brother at work. Their crime was allegedly over-serving drinks to two men who took a taxi-cab home. The taxi was hit by a drunk driver and all three in the cab were killed. I guess big brother is saying that if they hadn't been over-served they wouldn't have needed to take a cab home and wouldn't have been killed.

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1 posted on 04/18/2006 8:20:36 AM PDT by CedarDave
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This is the strangest story I've heard in a long time. I'm not sure I follow the logic, much less the law.


2 posted on 04/18/2006 8:22:27 AM PDT by mlc9852
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We had a local pub sued for serving to a guy who caused a death. Problem was, he was only .07 BAC when the accident happened, and the law was .10. (.08 now)

They finally got it beaten, but it broke'em


4 posted on 04/18/2006 8:31:51 AM PDT by digger48
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I don't get it.

If the guys had taken the cab because their feet hurt, would the shoe manufacturer have been sued? What possible difference does it make why they took the cab?


5 posted on 04/18/2006 8:35:12 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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Seems to be one hell of a disconnect between cause-and-effect here.


7 posted on 04/18/2006 8:38:29 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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Backdoor prohibition. You can't outlaw booze but you can outlaw everything related to it thereby making criminals out of ordinary citizens.


9 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:04 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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Wait...

So the victims (who were passengers, not drivers) were drunk, and that's why the bar that served them is getting sued?

Unreal.


10 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:43 AM PDT by Pessimist
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So what's the bodily injury charge about? Injuring [failing to kill himself] in the crash?


12 posted on 04/18/2006 8:44:27 AM PDT by Froufrou
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o.o8 is twice the legal limit??? NM has a .04 DWI law?? That is only one or two beers.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 8:45:33 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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Dont Drink and Ride in Cabs!


18 posted on 04/18/2006 8:48:48 AM PDT by woofie
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The Special Investigations Division of the state Department of Public Safety announced Monday it has cited Malarky's for selling to intoxicated persons under the state Liquor Control Act. Bartender Mary Lotspeich was also cited for the same offense.

I fail to see where the bar or bartender is being held responsible for the crash. They are being held responsible for serving alcoholic beverages to two individuals who, under applicable law, shouldn't have been served.

20 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:46 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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I think people are missing the point here because its burried in the article:

"The division had previously cited the Horse & Angel Tavern for over-serving Gabriel Gurule, the driver of the vehicle that crashed into the cab. Toxicology tests showed Gurule's blood-alcohol content was more than twice the legal limit of 0.08 percent. Gurule pleaded no contest in March to three counts of homicide by motor vehicle and one count of great bodily injury."

The bar had also over-served the guy who ultimately killed the other two, I think the cops are just throwing every thing they can at them to make sure something sticks.


23 posted on 04/18/2006 9:00:04 AM PDT by battousai (The mainstream media; as honest as the French are clean.)
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oh good grief! Lunacy! why don't they just dig up the dead cab riders and fine them too!!!


25 posted on 04/18/2006 9:01:05 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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ping


28 posted on 04/18/2006 9:03:36 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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I'm not so sure a bartender should be serving someone whose BAL is a .3...that's pretty hammered.


33 posted on 04/18/2006 9:12:41 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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Oh, I think COngress should investigate. We can't have drunk people calling cabs.


37 posted on 04/18/2006 9:15:58 AM PDT by jw777
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not uncommon. "dram shop" laws here in MN paid some guy's wife because he got loaded at a Wild game and flipped his
truck and made himself a parapalegic.

just another lawyer enrichment program.


44 posted on 04/18/2006 9:28:31 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (they love you in Mexico until you pay in pesos.)
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This is a good case for lawyer sanctions.

We need proximate cause tort reform.

This is absurd. I think the state must have joint and several liability and are seeking to get the bar's insurance.

Thus even if it is 1% responsible they can be made to pay 100% of the liability. This is an insurance scam.

Make the lawyer for the plaintiff pay for this out of his own pocket.


45 posted on 04/18/2006 9:31:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Let's have prohibition again. Or just a totalitariam state. It looks like we're headed there, only I can't figure out whether it's due to liberals or conservatives. I guess I give most of the blame to liberals, but conservatives are helping.


46 posted on 04/18/2006 9:31:15 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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What a s-t-r-e-t-c-h.

Should we eliminate all grainfields currently in the US? They might be used to produce liquor, after all.


52 posted on 04/18/2006 9:40:58 AM PDT by relictele
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Remember where we live. Nothing is too strange for NM.


77 posted on 04/18/2006 4:49:42 PM PDT by wjcsux (I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
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