Posted on 04/18/2006 1:36:37 AM PDT by goldstategop
Thank heaven for the massive marches across the country by those favoring illegal immigrants. These marches revealed the ugly truth behind the fog of pious words and clever political spin from the media and from both Democrats and Republicans in Washington. "Guest workers"? Did any of the strident speakers, with their in-your-face bombast in Spanish, sound like guests? Did they sound like people who wanted to become Americans?
Were they even asking for amnesty? They didn't sound like they were asking for anything. They sounded like they were telling. Demanding. Threatening.
Somebody must have told them that their Mexican flags that dominated the earlier marches were not making a good impression on television, so they started flying American flags. But such cosmetic changes did not keep the ugly reality from coming through in their hostile speeches.
These were not the speeches of people who wanted to join American society but people who wanted their own turf on American soil -- in disregard and defiance of what American citizens want.
Europe has already been through this "guest worker" policy that we are being urged to follow. They have learned the hard way what it means to have a growing foreign population in their midst -- a population that insists on remaining foreign and hostile to the culture, values and people around them.
Some European countries have learned this lesson at the cost of riots and bloodshed in the streets and lives lost in terrorist attacks. Others have only had to contend with national polarization -- thus far -- but polarization is not a small thing.
In this country, however, there are still people who refuse to learn any lesson at all. Some business interests see only an opportunity to get cheap labor. Some intellectuals see only abstract principles about abstract people crossing an abstract border.
Some tell us loftily that earlier generations of immigrants who were once thought to be unassimilable turned out over time to become as American as anyone else and patriotic citizens.
That might well be true of immigrants from Mexico, both legal and illegal, if the circumstances of today were the same as the circumstances during an earlier era of immigration from Europe. But circumstances are not the same -- and those circumstances are not going to become the same by pretending that they are.
The ugly display of grievance-mongering bombast at the illegal immigrant marches is just one of those circumstances that are not the same as in an earlier era.
When people came here from Europe, they came here to become Americans. There was no prouder title for them.
American generals of German ancestry led the fight against Germany in both World Wars. The Irish "Fighting 69th" earned its fame on the battlefields of the First World War and Japanese American fighting units were among the most highly decorated in World War II. They proved they were Americans.
The underlying tragedy of the present situation is that it is doubtful whether the activist loudmouths, who were too contemptuous of this country to even speak its language while demanding its benefits, represent most immigrants from Mexico.
Both legal and illegal immigrants have come here primarily to work and make a better life for themselves and their families. But a country requires more than workers. It requires people who are citizens not only in name but in commitment.
Americanization did not happen automatically in earlier times and it will not happen automatically today. Immigrants in an earlier era had leaders and organizations actively working to transform them into Americans -- the Catholic Church with the Irish and numerous organizations among the Jews, for example.
Today's immigrant activists and the politicians who kowtow to them have just the opposite agenda, to keep foreigners foreign and to make other Americans accept and adjust to that. It will be a national tragedy if they succeed.
Just what problem will amnesty solve? Illegal aliens will benefit and politicians will benefit by sweeping the illegality under the rug by making it legal. But how will American citizens benefit? America can lose big time.
Easy for him to say.
Go ahead. You try it! -- Un-as-sim-il-ab-le ...
I knew you could.
LOL...That's funny, Sokal had people just lining up agreeing with the jibberish. I don't have any degrees but I think this happens fairly often.
Perhaps I just missed it, but what exactly is the national security threat here on par with, oh I don't know, terrorists crashing planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and White House on 9/11?
"Invasion"?! "Slamdunk"? Do either of you honestly think those illegal aliens who are NOT terrorists and BREAK NO OTHER LAW, but just come to the U.S. to make a better life for themselves and their families, are actual threats to U.S. national security?
IIRC May 1st is Mexican "Labor Day" (we have one of those too and no one calls it a "Communist" holiday ; )
I'm sure it's just a coinky-dince that it falls on May Day, which just happens to be the biggest Commie-fest day of the year.
I'm gonna take a vacation day and go shopping with my Latina wife. Give her my wallet and she can shop any ten illegals under the table.
Well, yeah - I'm with Cardinal Mahony on this one - there should not be a boycott on May 1st. Much more productive is a sustained boycott like the one against Costa Mesa businesses - I am proud to say I have stayed completely away from South Coast Plaza : )
I have contacted Mike DeWine EVERY day to protest his proposal and all I get is a stupid pat response email. I am going all out in the primary to get a CONSERVATIVE on the ballot.
(Mike Oxley has been unavailable and Voinivich never responds, probably due to all the positive John Bolton articles I email him.)
Oh please, figure it out.
Our porous borders are easy entry points not only for lettuce pickers, but for unknown entities who migrate from other countries to Central America.
There's a big business in transporting these individuals from Cent/Am to the Mexican border with the rest of the lettuce pickers.
These people have "plans" but not to pick lettuce.
One of the best explanations of what is really going on I have seen. I will have to start paying attention to Sowell.
Who mentioned terrorists, o' almighty thread stealer?
But ....if they are really as easily manipulated by Commie subversives as they appear to be in the last two demos, the answer is YES.
Both parties mentioned "national security" - just asking about that specifically - thanks for your answer though.
Thank heaven for the massive marches across the country by those favoring illegal immigrants. These marches revealed the ugly truth behind the fog of pious words and clever political spin from the media and from both Democrats and Republicans in Washington. "Guest workers"? Did any of the strident speakers, with their in-your-face bombast in Spanish, sound like guests? Did they sound like people who wanted to become Americans?
Were they even asking for amnesty? They didn't sound like they were asking for anything. They sounded like they were telling. Demanding. Threatening.
Somebody must have told them that their Mexican flags that dominated the earlier marches were not making a good impression on television, so they started flying American flags. But such cosmetic changes did not keep the ugly reality from coming through in their hostile speeches.
These were not the speeches of people who wanted to join American society but people who wanted their own turf on American soil -- in disregard and defiance of what American citizens want.
Europe has already been through this "guest worker" policy that we are being urged to follow. They have learned the hard way what it means to have a growing foreign population in their midst -- a population that insists on remaining foreign and hostile to the culture, values and people around them.
Some European countries have learned this lesson at the cost of riots and bloodshed in the streets and lives lost in terrorist attacks. Others have only had to contend with national polarization -- thus far -- but polarization is not a small thing.
In this country, however, there are still people who refuse to learn any lesson at all. Some business interests see only an opportunity to get cheap labor. Some intellectuals see only abstract principles about abstract people crossing an abstract border.
Some tell us loftily that earlier generations of immigrants who were once thought to be unassimilable turned out over time to become as American as anyone else and patriotic citizens.
That might well be true of immigrants from Mexico, both legal and illegal, if the circumstances of today were the same as the circumstances during an earlier era of immigration from Europe. But circumstances are not the same -- and those circumstances are not going to become the same by pretending that they are.
The ugly display of grievance-mongering bombast at the illegal immigrant marches is just one of those circumstances that are not the same as in an earlier era.
When people came here from Europe, they came here to become Americans. There was no prouder title for them.
American generals of German ancestry led the fight against Germany in both World Wars. The Irish "Fighting 69th" earned its fame on the battlefields of the First World War and Japanese American fighting units were among the most highly decorated in World War II. They proved they were Americans.
The underlying tragedy of the present situation is that it is doubtful whether the activist loudmouths, who were too contemptuous of this country to even speak its language while demanding its benefits, represent most immigrants from Mexico.
Both legal and illegal immigrants have come here primarily to work and make a better life for themselves and their families. But a country requires more than workers. It requires people who are citizens not only in name but in commitment.
Americanization did not happen automatically in earlier times and it will not happen automatically today. Immigrants in an earlier era had leaders and organizations actively working to transform them into Americans -- the Catholic Church with the Irish and numerous organizations among the Jews, for example.
Today's immigrant activists and the politicians who kowtow to them have just the opposite agenda, to keep foreigners foreign and to make other Americans accept and adjust to that. It will be a national tragedy if they succeed.
Just what problem will amnesty solve? Illegal aliens will benefit and politicians will benefit by sweeping the illegality under the rug by making it legal. But how will American citizens benefit? America can lose big time.
Unions marching on May 1st. May Day. International Worker's Day. A favorite amongst socialists and communists.
Oh, the one Nativo Lopez suggested?
Yeah, a real paragon of conservative virtue that Nativo Lopez is.
Except an influx of criminals of all kinds (gangsters, thieves, robbers, killers, sex predators) IS a threat to national security. We have enough of our own, we don't need to import more.
Also, if you allow an entire bloc to sustain the fires of nationalism contrary to the identity of the nation in which they ACTUALLY reside, you WILL end up with a security threat, genius.
I'm pretty sure that North African and Middle Eastern guest workers in Europe didn't cause many problems when they first showed up. The first generation of them was probably pretty cool.
Clarity for a politician is like the Holy Cross to a vampire....
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