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Lottery Policies May Bar Illegal Immigrants From Getting Winnings
WFMY ^ | 4/14/2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/17/2006 7:07:28 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY

"If they don't have a green card or foreign passport, they're not going to get anything," lottery spokeswoman Pam Walker said. "Because they're likely to be an illegal alien."

Raleigh, NC -- Illegal immigrants in North Carolina can play the state's new lottery, but they may not be allowed to collect large winnings under the game's claim policies.

Lottery rules require winners of $600 or more to show a photo identification and proof of a Social Security number to claim their prizes. In the absence of a Social Security number, the lottery will accept a US passport, a foreign passport, an identification card issued by another state, a US armed forces identification card, a voter registration card or permanent resident card.

Illegal immigrants typically cannot get a Social Security number legally.

"If they don't have a green card or foreign passport, they're not going to get anything," lottery spokeswoman Pam Walker said. "Because they're likely to be an illegal alien."

Sandra Machuca, owner of La Centroamericana convenience store in Charlotte, said blocking illegal immigrants from winning would be unfair. Machuca said she has been selling about $1,000 worth of tickets a week.

"None of my clients are American," Machuca said. "Whoever wins has a right to the prize. That's why they buy the ticket."

State Controller Robert Powell said lottery officials should examine the issue.

"If you're here illegally, then there should be at least a legal determination as to whether you should receive the funds," Powell said. "If you're not here in this country legally, I don't know whether you should be eligible to receive lottery winnings."

He said he is not proposing a rule one way or the

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; lottery; nc; nclottery; northcarolina
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Hot issue here in NC with the new lottery.

1 posted on 04/17/2006 7:07:34 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY
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To: HOTTIEBOY

I foresee a new angle - offer to collect the winnings for illegals if they share.


2 posted on 04/17/2006 7:11:59 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Like sharks drawn to fresh blood, a minimum of 42,893 ACLU attorneys are invading NC to represent the winners.


3 posted on 04/17/2006 7:13:55 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: HOTTIEBOY
"If they don't have a green card or foreign passport, they're not going to get anything," lottery spokeswoman Pam Walker said. "Because they're likely to be an illegal alien."

FANTASTIC!! Thanks NC!

4 posted on 04/17/2006 7:14:47 AM PDT by stopem (America is not a Cash Cow!)
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What difference does it make where they live?

The object of a lottery is to raise money by selling as many tickets as possible.

If you rule out a large number of potential buyers, then you are only shooting yourself in the foot.


5 posted on 04/17/2006 7:17:14 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: HOTTIEBOY
As much as i dislike the illegals and the illegal issue, I do agree that they should have the ability to collect if they win.

In a U.S. casino, if you win a $1200 jackpot on a slot machine, as a citizen, you are handed a form 1099 g IRS form. As an alien, they take 1/3rd out immediately. I have no idea what they do for illegals, however.
6 posted on 04/17/2006 7:17:21 AM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: stopem

Except, I bet that policy gets overturned, as soon as the lawyers/courts get involved.


7 posted on 04/17/2006 7:17:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: HOTTIEBOY
This is great. Probably hard to enforce, but just great.



8 posted on 04/17/2006 7:17:46 AM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Let the criminals have at the lottery. It has been described as "A voluntary tax paid by fools."


9 posted on 04/17/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by The Republic is Lost
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To: CondorFlight

We don't mind if they play - just as long as they don't win.


10 posted on 04/17/2006 7:22:13 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: stopem

>>>>>FANTASTIC!! Thanks NC!>>>>


I wouldn't jump the gun on that one. The politicians here are all talk to get people fired up, then do nothing while in office until election time. Then they are all talk again.


11 posted on 04/17/2006 7:25:37 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: mlc9852

Sure they can collect the winnings, but, not unlike Americans who have to pay back taxes or child supprot, the illegals should have to pay back all back taxes or hospital bills or any other "assistance" they have received. That should dwindle the winnings down to nothing.


12 posted on 04/17/2006 7:29:48 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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OR NO! I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHEN AN ILLEGAL COMES TO COLLECT, AREST HIS A$$ AND SEND HIM BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM.
ILLEGAL MEANS ILLEGAL.


13 posted on 04/17/2006 7:31:36 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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But what about the ones who haven't used public assistance? And how would we know? If they don't have SSN and there are several with the same name, then what? Could get complicated I think.


14 posted on 04/17/2006 7:32:45 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: stopem
"If they don't have a green card or foreign passport, they're not going to get anything," lottery spokeswoman Pam Walker said. "Because they're likely to be an illegal alien."

FANTASTIC!! Thanks NC!


A foreigner can get a passport quite easily; the nearest consulate will issue a foreign passport immediately.

15 posted on 04/17/2006 7:34:23 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Glad to hear those parasites won't get anything.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 7:35:01 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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In the absence of a Social Security number, the lottery will accept a US armed forces identification card

As I look at my Military ID card the number on it is my SOCIAL SECURTY NUMBER.


17 posted on 04/17/2006 7:36:32 AM PDT by AirForce-TechSgt (RR's quote is to long to use as a tagline.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
As if, if one wins the lottery, they won't first spring for some decent forged documents.
18 posted on 04/17/2006 7:37:38 AM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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"If they don't have a green card or foreign passport, they're not going to get anything," lottery spokeswoman Pam Walker said. "Because they're likely to be an illegal alien."


"So where kin I git a furrin passyport or one of them there green cards so you can give me my money?"

19 posted on 04/17/2006 7:54:51 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: mlc9852
Gambling is just plain wrong. Period. There is no argument, no way to justify the kind of damage that gambling does to families and to society.

Your idea has been working since the lottery was first held.
Ever wonder why you see so many 70-80-90 yr. old people collecting on the jackpots? Seniors don't have to pay the taxes on the winnings. So, many winners just go wheel Grandma into the Lottery Commission, and give her what they'd be giving the state in taxes.

I won the lottery in the late 80's in R.I. When I was asked why I didn't use one of my elderly relatives for this scam, I said that I had won, so why should I steal? It's not "holier than thou" but I believe that paying the tax was, indeed, part of the winning. I sorely know for a fact that gambling is an evil vice that is one of the most telling signs of the unraveling of a decent society.
20 posted on 04/17/2006 7:59:15 AM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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