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Sept 11 film 'too close' for Kiwi victim's family
Sunday Star * Times (New Zealand) ^ | 16 April 2006 | TONY WALL

Posted on 04/16/2006 5:31:56 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter

Sept 11 film 'too close' for Kiwi victim's family

16 April 2006 By TONY WALL

New Zealand September 11 hero Alan Beaven is to be immortalised in the first Hollywood movie about the terrorist attacks, but his Auckland family will not rush to see the film.

Beaven's brother, Ralph Beaven, said the idea of watching a film of his brother's ordeal was traumatic.

Universal Studios is soon to release United 93, which will focus on the United Airlines flight which crashed in a field in Pennsylvania before it could reach its intended target in Washington DC, thought to be the White House.

It is believed the hijackers failed in their mission because a group of heroic passengers, including former Auckland University student Beaven, stormed the cockpit. Beaven will be played in the movie by British actor Simon Poland.

A year after the 2001 attacks, Beaven's wife, Kimi, revealed to the Sunday Star-Times that her husband's remains were found in the cockpit of Flight 93 and his voice was on the cockpit voice recorder.

The film, to open on April 28 in America, has ignited debate there over whether the country is ready for such a vivid portrayal of the attacks.

When a trailer advertising the film was played at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, audience members began calling out, "Too soon!"

The trailer contains news film of one of the planes about to hit the World Trade Center, and a cinema in Manhattan took the rare step of pulling it from its screens after several complaints.

"One lady was crying," the manager told a local paper. "I don't think people are ready for this."

Ralph Beaven said he would not go to the cinema to watch the film. "For me personally, I'm not sure I'd go along, I think it would be a little too close to home. I don't want to go down that track again.

"It would be very emotionally charged, especially seeing someone else represent your brother."

He said he might consider watching it later in the privacy of his home, if it was issued on DVD.

His brother had been an environmental lawyer in San Francisco who had fought for the underdog against big corporations, and who did not seek the limelight.

"He was not the sort of person who deliberately set out to have a lot of publicity. He was a down-to-earth Kiwi, he wore jeans and jandals."

Beaven said he had never received official word as to what exactly his brother's role was on the flight, and he believed Kimi Beaven's belief he had fought with the hijackers was conjecture.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911families; hollywood; moviereview; movies; united93; wtc
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To: Calpernia

Such is the peril of having multiple browser tabs open at the same time. When I opened this thread I searched for a couple United 93 threads from last Friday and was jumping back and forth between the various tabs. A rereading of your comments on this thread show that I was barking up the wrong tree. Sorry.


101 posted on 04/16/2006 7:19:02 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Yo quiero secure borders.)
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To: Denver Ditdat

I'm a multi browser user too and have made similar errors.


102 posted on 04/16/2006 7:20:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

There were 40 passengers on this flight, but I see you're just wanting to hold to your arguments against people seeing the film by picking at the "100" family members issue. You're entitled to that view, just remember so are the others who choose to see it to honor these heroes.


103 posted on 04/16/2006 7:22:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE

Copy and paste the 'issues' you are attributing to my post.


104 posted on 04/16/2006 7:26:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Yaelle

Well said, Yaelle, thank you.

I will be seeing it this weekend, tissues and family in tow.

This movie could disappear very quickly if too many folks go to see it, and ya know what I'm talkin' about. :-/

The heroes of Flight 93 will receive many prayers of 'thanks' and 'rest in peace' I think.

Pinz


105 posted on 04/16/2006 7:30:24 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: SouthernFreebird
...I didn't watch that one either altho it wasn't made 4 yrs after the war...

Right.

How long after the event do portrayals of heroism become palatable, for you?

106 posted on 04/16/2006 7:35:48 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Calpernia

The self righteousness is just oozing out of you guys here.


107 posted on 04/16/2006 7:36:30 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Calpernia
More than 100 family members and friends doesn't mean they spoke to all the victim families.
108 posted on 04/16/2006 7:37:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE

That is correct.


109 posted on 04/16/2006 7:38:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
As is this:

You're entitled to that view, just remember so are the others who choose to see it to honor these heroes.

110 posted on 04/16/2006 7:39:37 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I intend to see this film, too. It seems that Alan Beaven's brother has the same affliction as Nick Berg's father. I've been calling it Sheehanism.

If it is true that Alan Beaven's body was found in the cockpit, and he is heard on the black box recording, I truly doubt that the little riff by the brother about Alan fighting the underdog against evil corporations is anything but the brother's own political motivations. It wasn't the brother fighting for his life on that plane, and it wasn't the brother who was the underdog on that day.

It's taken the Hollywood/MSM cabal this long to make people forget about 9/11, it's time to remember how quickly we all came together in one day. In only a few hours. The rest of the world needs to remember who Americans really are, too.
111 posted on 04/16/2006 7:41:11 PM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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To: STARWISE

I want you to back up your post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1616182/posts?page=103#103 with a copy and paste of what I said for your interpretation.


112 posted on 04/16/2006 7:41:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
...Universal Studios is an international community member of the Gay & Lesbian Fund and the Soros Foundation...

So what? The big studios have to pay protection money to those with the ability to damage their business, nothing new there. Did you see Gladiator, Calpernia?

113 posted on 04/16/2006 7:42:54 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Did you read my entire post? Or are you snipping just that sentence.


114 posted on 04/16/2006 7:43:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rlmorel
...the self righteousness is just oozing out of you guys here....

Bingo. 'I knew someone in the WTC, and I deserve some victimhood status too!'

115 posted on 04/16/2006 7:46:24 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Calpernia
Did you see Gladiator?
116 posted on 04/16/2006 7:47:00 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: ishabibble

> I intend to see this film, too. It seems that Alan Beaven's brother has the same affliction as Nick Berg's father. I've been calling it Sheehanism.

I'll see it out of Respect for Alan. A fellow Kiwi who found himself in extraordinary circumstances and who, by all accounts, acquitted himself well.

I didn't know him, we had never met. But I wish we had.

Others are free to stay away from the movie or attend, each for his or her own reason. That is what Freedom is about.


117 posted on 04/16/2006 7:47:38 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

No.

And copy and paste where I've portrayed myself as a victim.


118 posted on 04/16/2006 7:47:43 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
First, I don't respond to demands; second, I'm not interested in dissecting the minutiae of our respective commentaries. Have a good evening.
119 posted on 04/16/2006 7:48:59 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

The Liberal Censorship of this movie has begun! You shouldn't see this movie because it reminds people why we are fighting the war on terror.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


120 posted on 04/16/2006 7:53:07 PM PDT by bray (Racists for Rice '08)
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