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Archbishop may defy migrant rules (San Antonio/South Texas)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 14 April 2006 | J. Michael Parker

Posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:21 PM PDT by Racehorse

San Antonio Archbishop José Gomez says he'll adhere to his faith and break the law if a congressional proposal criminalizing humanitarian assistance to undocumented immigrants prevails, though he'd consult with fellow Texas bishops before asking subordinates to follow his lead.

[. . .]

The archbishop, himself an immigrant from Monterrey, Mexico, told the Express-News Tuesday that "if they push us to that point, we'll have to choose (between faith and the law). It's a non-negotiable principle of our faith that we must welcome the immigrant and practice charity."

Referring to a bill passed by the House in December, which includes a provision that would make felons of undocumented immigrants and criminals of people who assist them, Gomez said: "'Love thy neighbor' is the very essence of the Christian faith, and (the bill) asks us to violate it."

[. . .]

Gomez, the spiritual leader of nearly 1 million Catholics in San Antonio and South Texas, was emphatic about being forced into a corner.

"If they tell me I can't practice my religion, I'll break the law," he said.

[. . .]

Under current law, it is a felony for any person who "encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter or reside in the United States."

The key difference is the "assist" clause, which has caused an uproar among religious leaders because it suggests humanitarian efforts would be criminalized.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; archbishop; borderlist; catholicchurch; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegalalients; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigration; religion; sanantonio
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Well, if the "law" said you could not say Mass and offer Holy Communion to an illegal alien, I would hope EVERY Bishop not follow that "law".


61 posted on 04/14/2006 5:05:27 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Racehorse

If he breaks the law he should be arrested and charged and his church should lose tax exempt status.


62 posted on 04/14/2006 5:07:00 PM PDT by kalee
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To: sitetest

Amen!


63 posted on 04/14/2006 5:07:37 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
"And it strikes the provisions that limit the humanitarian assistance exception to emergency situations and to assistance that is rendered without compensation."

This is the problem with Durbin's amendment. Legitimate humanitarian assistance is rendered only in emergency situations, and without compenstation.

"Current legislative proposals could make an organization guilty of alien smuggling, an aggravated felony, if they helped an individual in need before verifying whether the person is a legal immigrant."

There's nothing in HR 4437 to this effect. I've looked. Please feel free to point to applicable line-items in context if you feel I'm mistaken.

64 posted on 04/14/2006 5:08:30 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: del4hope
Explain something to me. Wasn't it Jesus Christ himself who broke NO laws and still gave himself up to the cross in adherance to the officials? Explain that Gomez. And Gomez, Jesus did that for you too.

Didn't He also aid the sick during the sabbath, which according the the pharisees of the time was a violation of the Jewish law? It does not belong to Caesar the power to decide who can receive food and medical assistance from the Church. On this issue, there is a higher authority.
65 posted on 04/14/2006 5:10:54 PM PDT by EKrusling
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To: FFIGHTER
Whats your opinion of Catholics? Be honest.

I haven't known many Catholics, but in general I've liked the ones I have known. As for the Catholic Church as a whole, I think it deserves a lot of credit for remaining relatively conservative in the face of the secularism that is increasing popular in the Western world.

On the other hand, I believe the Protestant ethic is responsible for the development of capitalism, and Catholic views on social justice are often harmful to this (many Protestant denominations are no better, though). Thus, for the US to remain economically free (and it is when compared to most European countries, which are either Catholic or secular), I think this Protestant worldview (or other worldviews that similarly support a free-market sustem) must be held by much of the population.

66 posted on 04/14/2006 5:12:19 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Racehorse
Gomez, you need to be glad it is the government dealing with you and not me. You simply MUST follow the law of the land. Nothing in that legislation is a violation of Biblical teaching AT ALL. In Romans the Lord says through the Apostle Paul:

Romans 13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

67 posted on 04/14/2006 5:13:22 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: CowboyJay

You and I will have to agree to disagree on the meaning of "assist" - I think that is where we left it last time too.


69 posted on 04/14/2006 5:16:07 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: EKrusling
It does not belong to Caesar the power to decide who can receive food and medical assistance from the Church. On this issue, there is a higher authority.

Not legally.

Lest I establsh the FSM as a "higher authority."

70 posted on 04/14/2006 5:17:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Incorrect. As I previously posted, the Church teaches that one must follow the law. Select bishops are stating their intentions to not follow the law.

Notice I said "if" the Catholic Church advocates violating the law. If they do not, then good for them. I certainly have nothing against Catholics per se. If certainly bishops advocate this, and their congregations follow, they are justifiably harming people's opinions of their congregations.

71 posted on 04/14/2006 5:17:44 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Young Scholar

How quickly you forgot the analogy to "runaway slaves" from above : (


72 posted on 04/14/2006 5:23:14 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: freedumb2003
I wasn't speaking to the state of the law, the law can be and often has been quite wrong, but to what is fundamentally moral. And the fact of the matter is that our Lord did violate certain laws when they were in conflict with what was right.

The government and so many folks on this thread can retaliate against the Church for that if they wish, but that doesn't make their arguments any more true.
73 posted on 04/14/2006 5:24:22 PM PDT by EKrusling
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To: clawrence3
I don't believe there is anything immoral about making it illegal to help people who are illegally in this country (and you can always give them the food they need and then turn them in).

I don't even support most of the harsher measures against illegals advocated on FR, and could easily support a well-designed guest worker program. But if a law is passed and signed making it a felony to aid illegals, I believe Americans should obey that law.

74 posted on 04/14/2006 5:45:41 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Young Scholar

That's right - the underground railroad should have only "given them food and turned them in" - good one.


75 posted on 04/14/2006 5:53:50 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Do you believe that illegal aliens are morally equivalent to runaway slaves?


76 posted on 04/14/2006 6:00:11 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Young Scholar

Some are escaping from even harsher living conditions, both groups "broke the law" crossing over the border, but in general, no. Now, should the underground railroad have only "given them food and turned them in"?


77 posted on 04/14/2006 6:04:08 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Young Scholar

Another question: are runaway slaves morally equivalent to unborn children?


78 posted on 04/14/2006 6:06:04 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Reagan 76

I wonder how many of those who are pro-illegal are of the "chinese menu" christianity cult.


79 posted on 04/14/2006 6:07:38 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EKrusling

Man's laws are indeed often flawed, and what is fundamentally "moral" is subject to debate. I have yet to read any of the Catholic leaders who support illegal immigration assure us that the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church alone, will bear the costs of the illegals, their "cause celebres". Therefore, they expect society to do so, whether society agrees or not. In my book, and in the Ten Commandments as well, that falls under the category of "Stealing". How about the Catholic Church effectively thumbing its nose at all those LEGAL immigrants waiting patiently in line to immgrate legally? Where are these church leaders speaking out against the body politic of Mexico for abandoning its people? Where's the "moral" outrage there? Taking the moral high ground is one thing, backing it up is quite another. I'm a Catholic, and I'm outraged at these arrogant hypocrites!


80 posted on 04/14/2006 6:12:35 PM PDT by gueroloco
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