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Seeking Ancestry in DNA Ties Uncovered by Tests
NY Times ^ | April 12, 2006 | AMY HARMON

Posted on 04/12/2006 3:07:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Alan Moldawer's adopted twins, Matt and Andrew, had always thought of themselves as white. But when it came time for them to apply to college last year, Mr. Moldawer thought it might be worth investigating the origins of their slightly tan-tinted skin, with a new DNA kit that he had heard could determine an individual's genetic ancestry.

The results, designating the boys 9 percent Native American and 11 percent northern African, arrived too late for the admissions process. But Mr. Moldawer, a business executive in Silver Spring, Md., says they could be useful in obtaining financial aid.

"Naturally when you're applying to college you're looking at how your genetic status might help you," said Mr. Moldawer, who knows that the twins' birth parents are white, but has little information about their extended family. "I have three kids going now, and you can bet that any advantage we can take we will."

Genetic tests, once obscure tools for scientists, have begun to influence everyday lives in many ways. The tests are reshaping people's sense of themselves — where they came from, why they behave as they do, what disease might be coming.

It may be only natural then that ethnic ancestry tests, one of the first commercial products to emerge from the genetic revolution, are spurring a thorough exploration of the question, What's in it for me?

Many scientists criticize the ethnic ancestry tests as promising more than they can deliver. The legacy of an ancestor several generations back may be too diluted to show up. And the tests have a margin of error, so results showing a small amount of ancestry from one continent may not actually mean someone has any.

Given the tests' speculative nature, it seems unlikely that colleges, governments and other institutions will embrace them.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancestry; crevolist; dna; ethnic; genealogy; genes; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; oprahisnotazulu
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1 posted on 04/12/2006 3:07:16 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: martin_fierro; blam; SunkenCiv; thefactor; aculeus; Coleus; wagglebee

Show me the money/DNA/Tonto Kowalski ping list...


2 posted on 04/12/2006 3:12:24 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy
I find it racist for the government to give preferential treatment to people based on their genetic racial makeup. Actually I find it disgusting.
3 posted on 04/12/2006 3:36:32 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

What about giving preference to someone who just pretends he is a native american so he can get a professorship? At least with the DNA testing there is some objectivity involved. I sort of like the idea of parents playing the game by the rules the affirmative actionistas set up.


4 posted on 04/12/2006 3:48:07 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: sportutegrl

I'm native American. I was born here.


5 posted on 04/12/2006 3:56:46 AM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: Pharmboy
PBS had an interesting program, African American Lives on a couple of months ago.

Oprah found out that she wasn't Zulu ! (SOB !)

The host's , (Henry Louis Gates, Jr.) story was rather interesting.

6 posted on 04/12/2006 4:05:10 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Yes--I read his op-ed piece on this in the NY Times (free--online, that is).


7 posted on 04/12/2006 4:10:48 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Shimmer128

I was referring to Ward Churchill. I personally think affirmative action is wrong and would love to see it eliminated; however, if they are going to make the rules, I like to see people game the system because it shows how ridiculous AA is.


8 posted on 04/12/2006 4:14:57 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: Pharmboy
As a hyphenated American I stand tall

American-American.....from both sides.
9 posted on 04/12/2006 4:29:11 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Airborne - the only way to get to work in the morning.)
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To: DB
Affirmative action is by it's very design racist and demoralizing.

The purpose of the adoptive father is equally revolting.

10 posted on 04/12/2006 5:00:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Pharmboy
Don't get tested unless you are prepared for the results.

None of us can know what might really have gone on out behind the barn 200 years ago.

So9

11 posted on 04/12/2006 5:02:12 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (" I am just going outside, and may be some time.")
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To: DB

Indeed...that's the way it's been for a while. In the near future, they just might turn to genotyping rather than eyeballing the person for the determination.


12 posted on 04/12/2006 5:20:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy
I've always said that when DNA evaluation reaches this point, the racists are in for a big surprise!

SURPRISE!!!

13 posted on 04/12/2006 5:29:19 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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To: Pharmboy

Adolph Eichmann could have really used something like this...


14 posted on 04/12/2006 5:37:28 AM PDT by Kenton
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"Matt and Andrew, had always thought of themselves as white..9 percent Native American and 11 percent northern African"

This points up the confusion between the political category "white" and biological categories of race. The twins are 91% Caucasian but their Dad doesn't seem to consider them "white".
15 posted on 04/12/2006 5:46:55 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Kenton

...or it might have done Eichmann and a few of his SS buddies in.


16 posted on 04/12/2006 5:47:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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17 posted on 04/12/2006 7:07:32 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Pharmboy

I would LOVE to do something like this. Mine would probably look like a checkerboard.


18 posted on 04/12/2006 7:09:52 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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When they get the price down, I will think about it.


19 posted on 04/12/2006 7:19:04 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Pharmboy
a small amount of ancestry from one continent may not actually mean someone has any.
In addition, random genetic remains from the colonial period are bound to color (so to speak) the reference samples. What is 9 per cent of 23 chromosome pairs anyway? ;') Thanks for the ping.
20 posted on 04/12/2006 7:20:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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