Hugh Hefner’s Legacy: The Celebrity Pornographer Turns 80

Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^ | 4/10/2006 | Charles Colson

[ArGee]

I don't see why nudity is bad or shameful.

Nudity is neither bad nor shameful. It is a gift, intended to be given by one man to one woman, and vice-versa. It becomes part of the special bond they share with each other that no one else can share with them.

I like attractive women also. I like them when they're well dressed at least as much (if not more sometimes) as I like them in the trashy clothes they often wear today. For my money there's something very sexy about an elegant, modest dress that a slinky, revealing dress can not rival.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

It inspries men to do great things, so they can get girls like that.

Are you trying to tell me that a fully clothed Jessica Alba is less inspiring than Jessica Alba in a bikini? If so I would conclude there is something wrong with you.

But, on the other hand, Jessica Alba in a bikini will cause a married man to think thoughts counter to his marriage than a fully clothed Jessica Alba will. At least for men, what crosses their vision has a great impact on their thinking.

Shalom.

[Antoninus]

No, there have been plenty of nudes in art throughout history.

Apples and oranges, dear. Not to be vulgar, but how often, do you think, were men in the public squares masturbating in front of these statues?

[drjimmy]

I was thinking of that other actress with the weight problem who is kind of sexy, but is a total airhead...Or maybe she just played in a movie called "A Bunny's Story" or something like that.

That would be Kirstie Alley ("Cheers," "Fat Actress," diet pitchwoman, and Scientologist), who played Steinem in the 1985 TV movie "A Bunny's Tale." For more on famous folks who have been Playboy bunnies, go here.

[Antoninus]

The west hardly reached perfection 1000 years ago.

No one was wearing a burqua then, either. That was the point.

[ZULU]

That's right - Kirstie Alley.

[ArGee]

Well, that's one way to look at it, I guess....I don't believe in any special status for humans among the mammalia...

Your tagline suggests that your worldview and reality don't match. Of course, you will believe the same thing about those like me who believe in G-d and what He says. Time will tell.

Before you enjoy your intellectual superiority, tell me about the strip clubs dogs or chimpanzees create.

Shalom.

[ZULU]

Kimba Wood?????

Wasn't she nominated by Klinton to the Supreme COurt??

[ArGee]

Because it is the opposite of this:

Why is the form of extremism that you are supporting better than the form of extremism you are condemning?

I will agree with you about the value of the freedom to choose evil. What I won't agree with you is the value of the choice of evil.

Evil does not make the world a better place. The abolition of man is evil. Pornography is a part of that abolition.

Shalom.

[Buggman]

Please add me to the ping list. Thanks.

[Cementjungle]

Like Ringo Starr, right place at the right time

He was smart enough to recognize that and work hard at it, resulting in success.

[rhombus]

Let's all raise a glass to Mr. Hugh Hefner.

Bottoms up...please.

[ArGee]

Whether kids will be desensitized to the indignity of it, or whether they'll just lose interest.

My bet is that it will be the glorification of sex for its own sake with a concomitant inability to form a true male-female bond. It will include the growth of homosexuality and polyamory and an increase in heterosexual divorce.

Oops. My bad. Already happened. Can't use that as a prediction.

I know, I know. I can't prove porn had a hand in those things. I still believe it.

Shalom.

[Antoninus]

Yeah, that's why not a single magazine in existence has ever published interviews with substantive public figures unaccompanied by nude pictures.

Boy am I surprised to see you on this thread. /sarc

Hefner's mag would have been one out of a thousand without the titty-pics. Why don't you rattle me off a list of the magazines which "published interviews with substantive public figures unaccompanied by nude pictures" that were around in the 1950s and still exist today?

[Antoninus]

Now youve done it. Youve gone and made sense..now the Libertarians will descend upon you like ravens.

I'm used to it. And have a .22 loaded with bird-shot for just such occasions.

[ArGee]

Also, take a look at a list of interviews that Playboy has published in the 60's:

If I gave you a bowlful of sh@# with ice cream on it, would you eat it?

We're not talking about the interviews. Hefner could have published the interviews without the nudity if he had wanted to.

He put the interviews in for the same reason the baby-killers talk about stem-cell research, to put ice cream on the sh@#.

Shalom.

[HawaiianGecko]

"You sir are a dolt."

Thank you sir! I am a dolt sir! Oh Lord, you probably worked for a living. I mean thank you Sergeant, I am a dolt sgt.

 

[linda_22003]

Some men don't need an excuse to whack off in public. Many works we consider masterpieces were originally considered at least titillating or shocking, if not obscene; Edouard Manet's "Olympia" was literally scandalous in 1865, and was intended to be. John Singer Sargent had to repaint a dress strap on Madame Gautrau's portrait; it had to be exhibited as "Madame X" in order not to raise a scandal about the real model. I am sure you know these paintings; they were not always seen through 21st century eyes.

Many paintings of women "en dashibille" were only exhibited in bars and men's clubs where women would not see them. I cannot swear as to what men did in front of them, but I suppose the floors were in questionable condition for numerous reasons.

I remember the early days of Playboy, when the models were somewhat orange in color, airbrushed to the point of unreality, and showed very little compared to today. What was "naughty" in the fifties and sixties is humorous today.

[Revolting cat!]

Hugh's series, man!