Posted on 04/11/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
You hit the nail on the head with that one!
LOL
From your answer to my post #988 (read post #988 - it says "all")...not from where the moon don't shine.
Darwin Central is not my term.
My use of this name is only intended to convey a collective group of people who have identified themselves as such...I make no connection to this above-mentioned self-called group of posters and those who believe that it is how our souls were created that defines humanity (whoever these said believers/peoples are).
Interesting philosophical/religious bent on your part though, Vaquero...I didn't know that you had it in you.
So you believe in a creator god (of some sort) and souls that define humanity...
What is your evidence for these?
And all that aside...Do you believe that we have God-given rights and that our Founding Fathers considered the Creator to be the God of the Bible?
If we lose now, there is no getting anything back. The greatest struggle we as citizens can individually face, and have any real control over, is "Do we drop out of the political process and hope that lights a fire under our party? Or do we continue to vote for those who take us for granted and ultimately ignore us?"
Persuading our Republican't leaders that it is in everybody's best interest for them to follow the Conservative course is tricky.
I could change voter registration to independent, withhold money from everyone except Weldon, Sensenbrenner, Tancredo, and a few others, sending back all fund raising mail from the RINOs and the RNC with a letter of disapproval...in the end, the guys with the 'R' at the end of their name stand the best chance of delaying the inevitable. So in the end, after all that complaining, we still have to pull the lever, 'cause the alternative is President Hillary.
But if 100 million illegal aliens are allowed to enter the country, that will be the last great issue we have any chance of influencing.
Attempts to revise, or muddy, the historicity of that fact ("you can take the creator to mean whatever you want") are akin to arguments made by liberals and the ACLU.
When the Creator associated with the Declaration of Independence is mentioned (or the God of the Pledge of Allegiance)...Who is it that makes similar claims to the ones made in post #988 and/or makes claims that someone is trying to revive religious persecution (or even the claim that someone is attempting to create a theocracy)?
Hint...These claims are certainly not consistent with conservatism (and your claims are hysterical...almost like Cynthia McKinney's claims of inappropriate stopping - they have no basis in fact)
Again...(in opposition to what you alleged/reasoned) it is not discriminatory, nor persecutory, nor infringement on one's constitutionally-guaranteed religious freedoms to state, with historical accuracy, that the Creator of the Declaration of Independence, the Establisher of our rights, is the God of the Bible.
(though...only in a liberal's world of revised history)
Absolutly its all about Wills and when one loses that they lost every thing!
there was a scene in the Secular Ten Commandment where the Israel had to learn to fight afrer 400 years!
Moses tells those who question him why it is import and the need for them to fight (defend!)
paraphase
Because Freedom is a just cause!
There were a couple of good lessons in that mini series!
"and souls that define humanity...What is your evidence for these?"
I dont....and I dont necessarily believe it exists. I do know that is what religions such as RC and Jewish believe. I am a recovering RC myself. I have no personal beliefs myself. I only have questions which neither of the religions I mentioned nor any other religions have been able to answer. I feel there may be something.
Faith is not my thing. I need to see it in detail.
it has been said that a good deal of the founding fathers were non-believers(or more correctly leary of organised religion). and I believe that.
HEAL OUR LAND
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Well said, JimRob...God Bless you and all the FReepers.
Are they God given, or not?
If so, it has been said incorrectly and you have believed falsely.
bump
excellent post
I say God bless you when you sneeze.....and mean nothing by it.
BUT............
the beauty is that you can believe whatever you like. As for me....I tire of this...it is going nowhere and I am done writing you for now.
good luck.
Oh, I think JimRob has a LOT to say about defining conservatism currently. And, personally, I'm quite thankful he does. There are far, far, far worse notions afloat while his is very patriotic; very practical; very Constitutional; very Biblically sound; very positive.
Actually, all Jim's cohorts hereon have a hand in defining conservatism currently. FR IS THAT significant in our culture.
Even if a Rino wins, we lose.
"Good luck."
Thank you, Vaquero...You too.
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