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Plan to Be in Wash., D.C. on Sunday, April 23, 2006 -- Secure Our Borders Rally to be Announced Soon
Monday, April 10, 2006 | Kristinn

Posted on 04/10/2006 7:49:24 PM PDT by kristinn

Please mark your calendars to be in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, April 23, 2006 for a rally calling on the federal government to secure our borders, enforce our immigration laws and to not give amnesty to illegal aliens.

A formal announcement will be coming soon after a few details are worked out. Time is short, so I wanted to give everyone a heads up that something is in the works.

Please note, this will not be a rally for those who hate immigrants. This will be a rally for those who love America and want to preserve it for all Americans and legal immigrants.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; america; borderlist; mexicanthenewblack; rally; washington
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To: stopem

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141 posted on 04/11/2006 12:02:55 PM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Oliver Optic

>And as Pukin' has pointed out ... the perception and
>impact of these events can easily get distorted coming
>through the media filter

This is like saying "we don't need WOT" because "coming through the media filter it will get distorted".. Of course it will - this is why we fight!

If you care what MSM will say then you are on the wrong side, this is not how we FIGHT!



142 posted on 04/11/2006 12:12:47 PM PDT by b2stealth
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To: Pukin Dog

>When my FR page contained images of the patches I earned
>in the military this nonsense didn't occur. Must we all
>know where our awards if we don't want to be bothered
>with the stupid comments from some who feel perfectly
>comfortable typing without thinking?

We understand your point of view, and will will consider it.
But you have to stop posting it over and over again. You are helping liberals by doing so. It is hard enough without you to get people with jobs to get together, now you are posting this every other post.

We hear you - you think it is not a good idea.


143 posted on 04/11/2006 12:16:49 PM PDT by b2stealth
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To: b2stealth
Do not post to me again. You don't even have the grace to apologize for your stupid accusation.
144 posted on 04/11/2006 12:22:27 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: b2stealth

Keeping this thread bumped.


145 posted on 04/11/2006 12:35:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Oliver Optic

"...but I hate to be goaded into adopting the tactics of our enemies ... tactics that are so well-suited to them and so ill-suited to us."

Well said. I agree. The fact that the other hundreds of millions of us that weren't out protesting and were at our desks or feeding our kids or planting crops speaks VOLUMES to me versus the "Mob for Hire" that ANSWER and ACORN threw together for these various protests.

I'm not sinking to that level, either. If some see that as wimping out, so be it. I do plenty of political educating and campaigning to try to change things for the better. A demonstration, unless it's rememebered for a violent free-for-all as so many Viet Nam protests turned out to be, don't accomplish much, IMHO.

Socialists will show us exactly who they are every d@mn day if we just stand back and let them.


146 posted on 04/11/2006 12:39:47 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: b2stealth; Pukin Dog; kristinn
We hear you - you think it is not a good idea.

I don't either. I know firsthand what the media can and will do. It'll be made to look like pathetic and comparisons will be made about the number of participants (if it gets any coverage at all). Unfortunately, that's self-defeating. It doesn't mean I don't respect the thought behind the rally plan, just that IMO kristinn may want to reconsider.

147 posted on 04/11/2006 12:50:43 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
It'll be made to look like pathetic and comparisons will be made about the number of participants

Like the media did with the Minutemen?

If your message is sound, there is only so much the media can do against you. And as the backlash against the large pro-illegal rallies is showing, size doesn't necessarily matter - message is first and foremost.

Freeper protestors are quite used to the MSM trying to spin us. We usually end up spinning them right back until they are dizzy.

148 posted on 04/11/2006 12:54:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I would go lightly with that 'keyboard patriotism' crack. You don't know me.

You don't know me either, pal.

Leaving the streets to the Reconquistas and the MSM cedes the argument to them.

No thanks.

149 posted on 04/11/2006 12:58:21 PM PDT by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)
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To: dirtboy

Quick question: Will you be there?


150 posted on 04/11/2006 1:00:04 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
Quick question: Will you be there?

Planning on it if the wife is willing to go as well. Don't get out to freep protests as much as I used to since I up and got married.

151 posted on 04/11/2006 1:01:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Timeout; hellinahandcart

That argument has been made time and time again for this cause or that.

The largest event that FR directly sponsored drew 4,000 people (March for Justice).

What did that get us? His Slickness's impeachment to his everlasting shame.

Small numbers make a difference. Particularly with media-savvy spokespeople.


152 posted on 04/11/2006 1:02:22 PM PDT by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)
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To: Pukin Dog

And your suggestion to convince our elected officials to pass legislation HR4437 instead of "giving away the farm"?


153 posted on 04/11/2006 1:03:32 PM PDT by stopem (http://www.liddyshow.com/petition.php)
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To: arasina

> don't either. I know firsthand what the media can and
>will do. It'll be made to look like pathetic and
>comparisons will be made about the number of participants

I don't understand this obsession with MSM.. Do you watch CBS? NBC? CNN? Do you know anybody who takes them seriously? I don't either, so be brave, and stand for what you believe!

Don't be defeated by "talking heads" and "leg crossers" on TV!

You need to go here -> http://www.rushlimbaugh.com


154 posted on 04/11/2006 1:03:42 PM PDT by b2stealth
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To: dirtboy

See? I told you. It going to backfire. I'm seeing all sorts of signs already.


155 posted on 04/11/2006 1:03:51 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan
See? I told you. It going to backfire. I'm seeing all sorts of signs already.

Try reading the linked article.

156 posted on 04/11/2006 1:05:13 PM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Pukin Dog; kristinn; Doctor Raoul; Jimmy Valentine's brother
Most Americans are on the same side of this issue as you are, but if you allow your stance to be framed through the prism of the MSM, you can see that support fall away rapidly.

Really? Are most Americans so fickle that they would allow their positions to be swayed by a media that they know to be dishonest?

You know what I saw yesterday? Sign after sign after sign with ANSWERcoalition.com on it.

It's up to us to get the message out about what this is. MSM be damned.

157 posted on 04/11/2006 1:05:15 PM PDT by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)
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To: b2stealth
If you care what MSM will say then you are on the wrong side

Hi, b2 ... I guess we have to decide what the purpose of our rally will be.

Is it to influence the public or the politicians? If so, then how it is portrayed in the media that the public and the politicians are watching does matter ... whether we like it or not.

If the purpose is just to bolster our own spirits, then I agree that the media spin becomes less of a factor.

158 posted on 04/11/2006 1:08:09 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: dirtboy

See? You and your wife won't be there; I won't be there. Maybe we should send holograms in our place to let everyone know we're there in spirit? :o)

I still don't think it's a good idea. The Swift Vets Rally was planned even further in advance and was, I'm sorry to say, not well attended at all. The only coverage that received (that I was aware of) was C-SPAN and we all know that's primarily watched by political fanatics like ourselves. Conservatives just aren't the protesting type...usually because they are responsible people. I also don't see a lot of interest by non-FReepers for a counter-protest march.


159 posted on 04/11/2006 1:09:38 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Oliver Optic
This is why conservatives have never been good at "hitting the streets" ... we've got stuff to do, jobs to work, businesses to run, children to raise.

Mass demonstrations have always been much more a tactic of the left than the right.

No excuses. I have a life too. This is all a question of priorities.

160 posted on 04/11/2006 1:11:17 PM PDT by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)
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