Posted on 04/10/2006 12:57:07 PM PDT by 5050 no line
A ruse that helped to win a soldier the Victoria Cross during the Second World War was a "war crime" and New Zealand should apologise to the families of the snipers he killed, it was claimed yesterday.
Alfred Clive Hulme, the father of Denny Hulme, the late world motor racing champion, was awarded the VC for bravery in killing 33 German snipers over eight days during the Battle of Crete in 1941. He returned home a hero to the town of Nelson.
But a new book by two military historians says that, in winning his VC, Sgt Hulme committed "acts of perfidy" under international law.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
How they have dishonoured these men. Combat is not subject to the Marquis of Queensbury rules, fergodzake.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you screwed up.
Here is one of the "horrid" acts:
"On one occasion Sgt Hulme donned a German paratrooper's smock, climbed up behind a nest of enemy snipers, and pretended to be part of their group. "He shot the leader first, and as the other four snipers looked around to see where the shot had come from, Hulme also turned his head as if searching for the shooter," the book says."
Sounds smart to me.
Subjected him to the firing squad, mind you, as, under the Geneva Convention the Germans would have been permitted to kill him for being in a fake uniform.
But WAR CRIME? No, just risky.
I don't even have the words...
I suppose if he had disguised himself and killed Hitler in 1941, he should apologize for using a "ruse" to stop the Holocaust as well. Jackasses...
IIRC, as long as he was wearing his own national uniform underneath the German paratrooper smock, it's a legitimate ruse of war that was used by both sides during WWII.
False flag ops have a long history.
The Nazis killed 6 MILLION Jews.
Sgt. Hulme shot 33 Nazi snipers.
And Sgt. Hulme is the bad guy? Un-frigging -believable!
To me, it seems just appallingly bad taste to publicly defame somebody like Sgt Hulme, demeaning his acts of valor and assaulting his memory.
I piss on Lt Col Harper and Profs Wills and Hodges. Shame on them!
Many years ago I was at an Army Fordham basketball game. One particular cadet named Houston was killing my Rams. In overtime he was touch fouled by a Fordham player and I yelled, "If you're gonna foul him, put him in the hospital." A couple of Army parents chastised me with "way to play fair Fordham." I responded, "If my tax dollars were teaching their kids to play fair, I want my money back.They're supposed to be teaching them to win."
Someone wrote a book and that makes it true? Branded war criminal because someone wrote a book? What the hell is wrong with people today?
And another five million of everybody else, IIRC- and that doesn't count Allied combat losses, in-the-field massacres and the 'collateral damage' of combat in populated areas.
I guess it wasn't fair us having Ultra or having cracked the Japanese code!
Imagine a Britain where there is no Thatcher type figures, where the al-Guardian and Indypendent enjoy mainstream readership support, and Harold Pinter is a good barometer of where most intellectuals based in this country stands. You get New Zealand.
Our people have read far too much from your Fleet Street publications when they did their OEs in "the Home Country" and take them far too seriously.
That National Socialists killed almost 12 million people, including approximately 6 million Jews.
Sounds like another case of trying to create a 'buzz' on a new book. Shameful, but typical; bash a hero in a book and the MSM can't wait to print the story.
German soldiers, disguised as US Army Military Policemen, redirected troops and were thought to have killed others at The Battle of the Bulge.
They were not thought highly of, at the time.
"Who are these two "military historians"?"
Well, it appears that at least one of them is some kind of pussy Lt-Col, one that I wouldn't want to follow into battle.
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