Maybe yes, maybe not so much.
Sometimes those willing to die also are willing to kill too.
Posted on 04/08/2006 7:15:09 PM PDT by balrog666
Following up on my previous post about how creationists suffered a few setbacks, this news has also come to my attention: the creationist theme park Dinosaur Adventure Land, operated by the prominent evolution denier Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) and the Creation Science Evangelism ministry, has just been shuttered by the authorities. All of this arises from the church's building without a permit back in 2002. (Here's the ministry's own account of the situation.)
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And to pick up your rose garden and follow...wait a minute thats not it. It was pick up your cross...man thats what we all want to hear.
And some people would rather kill then suffer a challenge to their belief system. I tend to trust those willing to die a little more. Certainly they make safer neighbors.
It couldn't have happened to a more deserving professional con man
I'm always happy to see an unscrupulous con artist humiliated.
You sense a deception here? The NIV folks think the four gospels were written some where within 50 to 70 AD. yet they don't see it as a reason to doubt their accuracy. All of the gospels seem to be pretty straight forward about being written after the fact.
As for the works of Josephus, I have not read them. It was just the result of a quick google search to give you a specific non-biblical source.
As for the political spin of the authors of the gospels, they seem to have done pretty well at winning converts in a hostile situation. Those guys must have been brilliant. Its a miracle that the religion they invented was so successful...no wait a minute, not a miracle...just a really good job of spinning. Yeah thats the ticket.
Maybe yes, maybe not so much.
Sometimes those willing to die also are willing to kill too.
Sure dude, happens all the time.
Creation Science Evangelism was started in 1989 by Dr. Kent Hovind. Kent Hovind is one of the most requested speakers on the Creation and Evolution topic in churches and Universities all over the world. Dr. Hovind served as an educator for many years teaching Biology, Anatomy, Physical Science, Mathematics, Earth Science, and many other sciences. Dr. Hovind has debated the Creation and Evolution controversy over 100 times all over the world, in many large Universities, and on thousands of radio talk shows.>/i>
Only one comes to mind. So I asked if the allusion was intentional. I doubt is was consciously, but I suspected it might have been triggered by an undercurrent of contempt.
Do you think there was contempt in the phrase? What if were pointed elsewhere? Like "Bible-denier"?
Alright then, I was wrong to suggest that source without knowing much about it. Feel free to feel smug. I actualy do like being corrected when I'm wrong. Not that I enjoy it :-(
That would be Islam for the most part. Not a lot of Christian suicide bombers.
Eh, credentials, schmedentials. Check out Hovind's reputation with other young earth creationists. :-)
No doubt. But not all religious people are pseudo-religious hustlers.
Just like the lastest evolutionary fraud is another example from a long line of evolutionary frauds. But it doesn't mean there aren't some sincere evolutionists that fairly present their observations and conclusions.
Nice try. However, the 'pseudo-religious hustlers' are not held to the same standards as scientists. Try to publish some pseudo-scientific piece of crap in a respectable scientific journal and see what happens. And please let us know.
Fascinating.
I don't have a specific problem with the Gospels being written after the fact, but that makes them memoirs and not historical records. I simply don't understand why someone that had such a huge impact on both the Jewish community and the Roman government would not have been cited at all in either groups extensive records of the day.
And no hard feelings about the Josephus thing; I was for the most part expecting you to cite it. It's pretty much the only non-biblical reference to Christ, and as such it has undergone some pretty intense scrutiny over the years. Its exposed flaws are pretty well known, as you've no doubt begun to realize.
I do find the success of the early Christian evangelists to be a testament to not only their tenacity but also their charismatic people skills. I'm not ready to automatically equate those attributes to evidence that God guided them though.
Actually finding out you are argued against by people who wonder how Roosevelt could have gotten up San Jaun Hill in that wheelchair us disheartening rather than smuggening.
No passion for the immigration story. No interest in Iraq. No comments on tax policy. No remark on abortion. No curiosity about Supreme Court nominees. No opinion on space policy and NASA. What we have here is a gang of single-issue obsessives.
That probably wasn't directed at me, but I've been a regular participant in these crevo threads since 2002. I've taken a quick glance at your comments and there's no doubt from what I've seen that you're far more of a single-issue obsessive than I am. In fact, the only place I've ever noticed you is in these crevo threads.
As for me: I've been passionate about immigration for years (it's about my #1 political passion); have posted dozens of threads on Iraq since back in 2003; commented regularly and posted threads on economics and tax policy (but haven't done so much of that lately); am one of the most regular posters on Supreme Court cases & legal issues; and you can just check my tagline so far as space policy goes (and I run the FutureTech ping list as well).
In fact, I've posted a total of 522 threads and 16,238 replies since I've been on FR, and I seriously doubt even a half dozen of those threads had anything to do with evolution or creationism.
PS. And I've certainly remarked on abortion too (I'm almost entirely pro-life and completely anti-Roe).
I donno why, but that reminds me of something I saw on TV a couple of years ago. A big-time spammer got arrested for all kinds of frauds, and they interviewed another spammer who claimed to be a legitimate internet marketer. The "legit" guy said the was glad the other guy got arrested, because he was "giving the penis-enlargement industry a bad name."
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