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To: CrawDaddyCA; Larry Lucido; Horatio Gates; Squantos; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig; sit-rep
Most LEO's I know are gung-ho type military rejects. They join a SWAT team to try to make up for their failed military career.

As a current cop, who was a SWAT cop for a while, and a veteran of the US Army who had no intention of making a career of it, may I be the first to say that you are full of shi*.

Don't care much for no-knocks either or abuse of any other police tactics either. IMHO, if someone ain't about to get killed, then there better be a darn good reason you didn't knock and announce

38 posted on 04/07/2006 3:17:10 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Kickin' ass on the wild side)
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To: Horatio Gates
Then you sir, are one of the good LEO's I mentioned in my post #25.

I'm glad you are still on the force, we need good cops out there to reign in the bad.

People might have the impression that I'm a 'cop basher'. This is incorrect, I respect and admire good LEO's. But the gung-ho types really need to be controlled. I know if someone breaks into my house in the early morning hours, unannounced, I would treat that person or persons as hostile and take appropriate measures.

45 posted on 04/07/2006 3:45:30 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (I ain't learning no friggin' Spanish!! This is America, you learn English!!)
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To: Horatio Gates
As a current cop

Do you support LEAP?
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46 posted on 04/07/2006 3:55:44 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Horatio Gates
As a current cop, who was a SWAT cop for a while, and a veteran of the US Army who had no intention of making a career of it, may I be the first to say that you are full of shi*.

Don't care much for no-knocks either or abuse of any other police tactics either. IMHO, if someone ain't about to get killed, then there better be a darn good reason you didn't knock and announce

(from bio.)(snip)For the last 15 years I've been a police officer (it beats working for a living) for a municipality in Pierce County. The highlights of my police tour of duty have been serving on a Street Crimes/Narcotics Unit for five years and four years as a SWAT Team sniper. All in all, it's been a pretty humbling experience. I never thought I'd be a cop in my younger days, but what the heck...I'm pretty good at it. Some of the high points over the last year have been complaints from "concerned" citizens about me telling folks to arm themselves and listening to Rush Limbaugh on duty.

I have a few hobbies which include home-brewing beer, mostly wheat based ales.(snip)

I find the WOD part of a large hypocrisy. I mean, wth are the various government agencies spending billions of $$$ vilifying in various methods cigarettes (and other tobaccy products) and liquor products which are all perfectly legal. Yet the governments reap windfall tax revenue from smokes and booze. Yet the true illicit and dangerous narcotics remain untaxed, billions of dollars of our money is spent and civil forfeiture laws are abused and the focus seems to be on punishing honest subjects…I mean citizens, who get hosed every time they want a smoke or a beer. Smacks of hypocrisy in my book. The end of the WOD would mean the end of many a bureaucrat’s job I suppose, but it’s time to win it or tax it. Don’t get me wrong; I’m not for legalization of narcotics, but the time to crap or get of the pot is long past due(snip)

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You mention in your bio. that you brew beer and that you have some problems with the way the war against drugs is carried out. From what I can tell your problem with the WOD's is that the governments can't seem to derive enough revenue from citizens who participate in illicit substances.

What I'm curious about is if a citizen planted a few cannabis plants for personal use (like you do on brewing your beer) and smoked the cannabis on private property - do you think the governments should be trying to convict that citizen of a crime?

48 posted on 04/07/2006 4:29:47 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: Horatio Gates; sit-rep

My comment is not needed here, these folks are kicking themselves in the teeth just fine HG !!.........LMAO !!


49 posted on 04/07/2006 4:40:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Horatio Gates
Gonna tell you all a story that happened to me by an overzealous local policeman. This story might be a little difficult to believe but it is true.
Bought a new telephone late one evening. One of those that hang on the wall. Programed 911 into it. Was tired and didn't want to mount it to the wall that night so I just laid it down on a footstool until morning. We had just gotten a 6 month old dachshund from a friend of my son. He lived in an apartment and they wouldn't let him keep it. Since he work a lot he never got around to housebreaking it.
We had her chained to a chair leg during the night so she would not mess all over the house. Well, somehow she managed to reach the phone sitting on the footstool and knocked the receiver off and hit the button that dialed 911 at the same time. Wife and I were sound asleep and didn't hear the police knock (or at least they said they did). My son, who lives next door saw the police at my house and came over just as the officer was about to kick my door in. He told them we were asleep and that he would let them into the house. After discovering what happened we all had a good laugh.
I am happy that my son observed what was happening and things worked out as they did. Because, anyone who kicks my door in when I am sound asleep at 3:30 AM probably would not have made it down the hallway to our bedroom without getting themselves killed. Police or whomever. My wife and I have been married for 47 years and there has never been a domestic dispute or violence amongst us. This is a small community and most everyone knows us including the police.
We do not get the best of the brightest candidates for police officers. This could have quickly turned into a tragic situation because of one officer. Both for them and for me.
64 posted on 04/08/2006 12:39:57 AM PDT by jerry639
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