No Amnesty For Republicans (Don Feder To GOP: We are Are Conservatives, Hear Us Roar Alert)

Frontpagemag.com ^ | 04/07/06 | Don Feder

[capecodconservative]

Real astute.

Look at the facts: We deposed the Taliban in Afghanistan; we deposed Saddam in Iraq. Each posed a credible threat to American security. In my opinion, once those threats were neutralized, we should have pulled out of each country. Frankly, I could care less if the Islamo-fascist savages [Shia, Sunni or Kurd] bomb each other from the Medieval Age they're in now back to the Stone Age they were in in the 20th Century. You simply can't establish a democracy in among such people; that is a pipe dream.
I care only about American national interests.

The biggest threat we have to national securty right now is the crimaliens who collect our welfare, clog our schools and emergency rooms, undercut the wages of the real "working people" and threaten to Balkanize this country ethnically, linguistically, economically and socially.

Wake up.

[mtntop3]

If some Republicans insist on unreasonably attacking their own by persisting in the feverish pursuit of numerically impossible goals - i.e., getting every single illegal hispanic out of the U. S. - then the Democrats will indeed take over, with the result that the flood gates will be taken off their hinges and there will be no gates.

You will see a flood of illegals that can not even be imagined.

Push the Republicans to be tough. Build walls in Arizona and California. But to have a 100 percent illegal-alien removal program, you would have endless chaos even with the U. S. armed forces involved - and there would be a fatal turning aside from the huge Islamo-Fascist threat which involves WMD's.

[ekwd]

So you would have us abandon our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq in favor of a new version of "fortress America". Never mind that you would also be disheartening our other allies in places like Thailand, The Philippines, and Mali or that you would be abandoning the progress we have made in places like Yemen and Indonesia or Pakistan. It didn't work against the Nazi's and it won't work against the Al Queda's.

[capecodconservative]

Who, precisely, are our allies? Please identify the Iraqi, Filippino or Malian Churchill. To paraphrase Bismarck: we have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, we only have permanent interests.

These people have been fighting each other for hundreds of years, in terms of Islam, and thousands of years in terms of tribalism. Do we really need to get into the middle of their disputes? Do we really need to ally ourselves with narco-sheikhs in Afghanistan or closet Iranian supporters in Iraq? I think not.

The so-called "Blood for Oil," in my mind, represents a legitimate American interest. If these people cut off our oil, our economy dies and our way of life is affected. Protecting our interest in Middle East oil, in my mind, is our only interest in that region until we develop alternate sources of energy, at which point we can tell the savages who populate that region to go bleep themselves.

So when the moonbats scream "No blood for oil," I say: "Stop driving your Volvo/Saab/Mercedes with the 2 year old 'Kerry/Edwards' bumper sticker on the back, you idiot, and start walking so I can drive to work and pay my taxes."

[TAdams8591]

"What is happening on the southern border is unprecedented. Not only in our own history, but in the history of the world. No country at any time, anywhere, has sustained the influx of tens of millions of foreigners across its borders … This is invasion masquerading as immigration. It may already be too late to avoid a future annexation of the Southwest by Mexico or the evolution of a Mexican-dominated satellite state.” If not, the Senate compromise will seal our fate."

Exactly!

[nicmarlo]

The Whig Party committed suicide by refusing to take a stand on slavery. Instead, it sought accommodations with evil, like the Compromise of 1850. Republicans are emulating their pusillanimous predecessors. The party’s conservative base – its very essence – is furious with this unpardonable betrayal.

If this gift to illegal aliens becomes law, there will be no amnesty for the Republican Party.

BumPing!!!

[America's Resolve]

Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid worked out with Republicans like Arlen Specter, Mel Martinez, Chuck Hagel and John McCain

If these are the best negotiators that the Republican Senate can come up with, why bother?

There's little or no difference between the parties with people like these determining what laws are passed.

Constitution party for me. Screw the republicrats.

[ekwd]

In Iraq, the Kurds at the very least. In Afghanistan, the old Northern Alliance at the very least. In Mali, it is the Mali government which is fighting a radical Islamic uprising in its north. In the Philippines it is the government which is fighting Abu Sayef an Al Queda affiliated group. It is in our "permanent interest" to see that the Islamofascists don't succeed because they haven't and won't confine themselves to their regions.

[ekwd]

Are you under the impression that you will be doing anything other than handing control of this country over to the Democrats? I do not want the party that gave us the Vietnamese Boat People, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Sandinista's to regain control of the government.

[Old_Mil]

You're right...but to do this, we're going to have to do a little work.

It's not going to be enough to look at the list of who voted against the Senate bill today. A good number of those same Republicans (Lindsey Graham, John McCain, George Allen for instance) support some form of amnesty or guest worker program. They only voted against that bill out of fear. Reelect them, and they'll get back to work like termites.

Look through the statements made by your politicians. Anyone who supports guest workers/amnesty/etc should not get your vote.

Oh, and support Tom Tancredo - the first guy to be front and center on this issue.

[Antoninus]

Don Feder is an awesome writer. I've loved him ever since he was at the Boston Herald.

No amnesty for Republicans who betray America on the borders. (Nor for Democrats, for that matter, but we don't expect you to do the right thing).

[America's Resolve]

Are you under the impression that you will be doing anything other than handing control of this country over to the Democrats?

ROFL

Do you have ANY idea how often I've heard that argument???

Let me say it plainly: I DON'T CARE! THERE IS NO LONGER A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO PARTIES!

What's not to understand???

Dems are liars, cheats and thieves and Repubs are liars, cheats and gutless.

You may see a difference here, I don't.

[Antoninus]

With a strong stand on illegal immigration, the Republicans are being handed a landslide victory in November. Why they can't see this is very difficult to grasp.

Because they are the Stupid Party. And, because we have enough members of the Evil Party masquerading as Stupid Party members in the Senate (i.e., McCain, Chafee, Snowe, etc.)

[jw777]

Also, we in CA would like Prop 187 which was passed by close to 67% in this most blue of blue states 12yrs agao, ENACTED WITHOUT DELAY!

Filthy Judges who overthrow the will of the people must be impeached.

[Antoninus]

So you would have us abandon our allies in Afghanistan and Iraq in favor of a new version of "fortress America".

What's the point of having allies overseas when your own country can't defend its borders?

The Republicans will do the right thing on this issue, or they will get wiped out at the polls. Sorry, that's political reality here in 2006. If the Stupid Party is too dumb to read the tea leaves, they deserve what's coming to them.

[Old_Mil]

It is in our "permanent interest" to see that the Islamofascists

Before you can even begin to express a coherent foreign policy, you have to get your definitions right. There's no value in repeating the talking points of a politician who calls Islam "a religion of peace." First, there is no such thing as an "Islamofacist."

Fascism is defined as follows:

Although the broadest definitions of fascism may include every authoritarian state that has ever existed, most theorists see important distinctions to be made. Fascism in Italy arose in the 1920s as a mixture of syndicalist notions with an anti-materialist theory of the state; the latter had already been linked to an extreme nationalism. Fascism in many ways seems to have been clearly developed as a reaction against Communism and Marxism, both in a philosophic and political sense, although it opposed democratic capitalist economics along with socialism, Marxism, and liberal democracy. It viewed the state as an organic entity in a positive light rather than as an institution designed to protect collective and individual rights, or as one that should be held in check. It tended to reject the Marxist notion of social classes (and universally dismissed the concept of class conflict), replacing it instead with two more nebulous struggles: conflict between races and the struggle of the youth versus their elders. This meant embracing nationalism and mysticism, and advancing ideas of strength and power as means of legitimacy, a might makes right that glorified war as an end in itself and determinant of truth and worthiness. An affinity to these ideas can be found in Social Darwinism. These ideas are in direct opposition to the ideas reason or rationalism characteristic of the Age of Enlightenment, from which liberalism and, later, Marxism would emerge.

Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic. The fascist state regulates and controls (as opposed to nationalizing) the means of production. Fascism exalts the nation, state, or race as superior to the individuals, institutions, or groups composing it.

As you can see, there are several aspects of Facism that Islam does not share. Islam is an expansionist religious philosophy that advocates military action to achieve it's goals, not as an end. Paradoxically, Muslims tend not to be racists though they share a visceral hatred of all things non-Muslim.

The problem is not facism, terrorism, poverty, a lack of education, a lack of democracy (lookie who the Palestinians voted in!), or anyting else that our naive neocon brethren believe the problem to be.

For 1400 years, the problem has been Islam itself.

[rattrap]

I'm keeping an eye on my senators and reps, if they vote for this travesty, I vote against them.

Of course my house rep is the esteemed Cynthia McKinney so I already planned on voting against her.

[freedumb2003]

They were undocumented workers – the weaseliest of weasel words. Sure, and the man who breaks into my house is an uninvited guest.

That is a GREAT quote. It is potential tag material.

[skeeter]

Well, pardon me, but I interpret that to mean you are willing to turn the government over to the Democrats if you don't get your way on immigration.

Pop quiz... from a conservatives 'pro border enforcement' point of view, which alternative is more likely to produce the desired legislative result in congress?

a. sit on hands, allow loudmouthed protestors in the streets waving mexican flags dictate the tone of the debate, or:
b. convince the GOP they will lose their jobs in November if they do not act on the will of their base.