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The Population Shortage
NY Sun ^ | 4/4/06

Posted on 04/05/2006 11:00:37 PM PDT by dervish

The more acrimonious the immigration debate grows, the more we wish that President Bush would talk about America's population shortage. We're all for enforcing the law, but let's skip for a moment the question of whether people got here legally or illegally or are native born. The broader point that needs to be made is that people are good - life is good - for America and for any nation. This point is understood at almost every level by our religious leaders. It has been pressed with particular clarity, though by no means exclusively, by the members of the Council of Torah Sages and the theologians of the Catholic Church. It has not, however, been pressed with any clarity by our political leaders.

On the contrary, one of things that makes the current debate so bitter is the failure of our leadership to confront ideologies hostile to population growth, no matter what its source. Some are economic theorists, such as the Malthusians. Some are movements such as Zero Population Growth. Some mix xenophobia and environmentalism, like the Sierra Club. There are the birth control and abortion movements, and all the left-wing economists focused not on growing the pie but dividing it. Then there are the racists, who are either hostile to blacks or Hispanics or Asians or Arabs or Jews or other minorities. The wonderful thing about the understanding of life that has been given to us from Sinai is that it trumps every one of these points of view and holds out a hopeful, unifying vision.

We are not, after all, so very far from the day when the world could be facing a dwindling population...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholicchurch; familyplanning; judaism; lifeisgood; populationgrowth
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1 posted on 04/05/2006 11:00:39 PM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish

Moonbat liberal rag.


2 posted on 04/05/2006 11:03:56 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: dervish
The broader point that needs to be made is that people are good - life is good - for America and for any nation.

Thank You, I like to see that statement in print. I love to confound both abortionists and enviro-whackos by standing firm in my belief that HUMANS ARE EARTHS GREATEST NATURAL RESOURCE.

3 posted on 04/05/2006 11:06:02 PM PDT by A message
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To: dervish

Personally I think a million people in Montana is way more than enough.


4 posted on 04/05/2006 11:10:28 PM PDT by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: dervish

Is the Sun getting uppity? This is the first time I've seen registration required for 30 days free.


5 posted on 04/05/2006 11:12:06 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: dervish

"unifying vision."

Guy must be high on something to believe this sh*t.


6 posted on 04/05/2006 11:15:33 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Let's see, how is our government going to screw us today?)
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To: dervish

"The broader point that needs to be made is that people are good - life is good - for America and for any nation."

The 9/11 terrorist thugs:

1.were no good people.

2.took their own lives and the lives of 3000 innocents.

3.were neither good for America nor for the rest of the world.

I wonder who the author of this liberal, trashy piece could be. Why was it conveniently omitted?


7 posted on 04/05/2006 11:22:00 PM PDT by RoosterRe (Tancredo for President.)
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To: dervish

The claim that we do now, or will in the future have a 'Population Shortage' is just as lame as those who claim we're 'Overpopulated'. Population simply is what it is.

This nation gained its place in the world through technological advantage, manufacturing prowess, and mineral resources; not by having the largest population (far from it, in fact).

If a humongous population were such a positive for a society, those with the largest populations (mainly those in the Far East) would have developed quicker, and not more slowly than the nations of the Western World.


8 posted on 04/05/2006 11:30:41 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: dervish

What whacko world are you living in? The US is FAR too overpopulated, 20 percent of the growing prison population consists of illegal aliens, many of whom are there for smuggling meth into the country (yes it is cooked here too) and quality of life is going DOWN THE TUBES. Or maybe you'd like your town to look like Mexico City or Beijing?


9 posted on 04/05/2006 11:32:13 PM PDT by CODONOVICH
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To: CODONOVICH; Admin Moderator

I smell ozone


10 posted on 04/05/2006 11:55:51 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: CODONOVICH; Jim Robinson

ITBZ


11 posted on 04/05/2006 11:57:39 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

lol! I have to go to bed...will leave you to deal.


12 posted on 04/05/2006 11:58:56 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

ITBZ=IBTZ


13 posted on 04/06/2006 12:00:53 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: CODONOVICH
"The US is FAR too overpopulated"

I agree. Something should be done about you.

14 posted on 04/06/2006 12:03:40 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: CowboyJay

Population is important to some degree. It is important that population continue to grow, if only slowly. For our social systems to survive and for economic growth to continue, we're going to have to remain at or just above replacement levels. Europe, as you all well know, is on a death spiral with their low birth rates.

Outside of that, I think we've reached the point where it doesn't really matter what number is attained anymore.


15 posted on 04/06/2006 12:09:31 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: dervish

...good post!

Sadly, I've seen a few Republicans along with Democrats who were obsessed with environmental and animal issues at land use meetings in various counties and states. They complained against others' property rights and about "overpopulation" in areas with very few people per thousand square miles. They ranted, raved and threatened to sue healthier families--their neighbors.

I'm really ashamed of my Baby Boomer generation--selfish, vain, spoiled rotten, sexually confused,...


16 posted on 04/06/2006 12:20:13 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop; All
As it happens, I have a new vanity on population and prosperity...

Cheers!

17 posted on 04/06/2006 12:32:11 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CODONOVICH

If we repealed feminist laws and ended family breaking social programs, our employers and political leaders wouldn't be so far to the left as to bring in so many foreign nationals. If we had enough kids to keep our country populated, we wouldn't need such large numbers of immigrants to keep our economy going. In fact, if more of us were more morally conservative, our immigration policies would be more for keeping families together and not so much for the purpose of flooding our labor pool.


18 posted on 04/06/2006 12:39:20 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: sageb1

What does ITBZ mean. I think it's about a troll? thanks


19 posted on 04/06/2006 12:44:36 AM PDT by alaskamomma
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To: dervish

Forgetting, of course, that we are not anti-immigrant; we're anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.


20 posted on 04/06/2006 12:45:00 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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