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Hollywood takes on Iraq as public opinion shifts
M & C Movies ^ | 3/24/06 | Andy Goldberg

Posted on 04/05/2006 8:58:10 PM PDT by jmc1969

With support for George W Bush's war in Iraq at an all time low, some of the biggest names in Hollywood are working on movies that are likely to increase criticism even further.

In the last month, three of Hollywood's most respected directors have announced projects that are directly based on experiences of US personnel in Iraq.

Paul Haggis, whose movie Crash recently won the best movie Oscar, is planning a movie based on the best-selling memoir, Against All Enemies. The book by former anti-terrorism czar Richard Clarke chronicles how the obsession of Bush and other government leaders with invading Iraq led them to ignore warnings of Al Qaeda terror attacks prior to September 11 2001, and then to bungle attempts to capture Osama bin Laden and eradicate his movement.

Meanwhile Kimberley Pierce, who directed Oscar-winner Hillary Swank in the movie Boys Don't Cry, is set to start shooting Stop Loss, about a Texas soldier who refuses to return to Iraq and fight.

Irwin Winkler, the veteran producer of movies like Raging Bull and Rocky, is developing a project called Home of the Brave which will feature Samuel L Jackson as a soldier who struggles to readjust to life in America after an extended tour of duty in Iraq.

Robert Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse University, says this willingness of Hollywood to make movies about an ongoing war is unprecedented.

Thompson says that it is no coincidence that this wave of movies is coming out as public opinion has turned decidedly against the war. Until recently the mass media was scared to address the war for fear of being labelled unpatriotic.

'That has certainly changed. With the president at a 36 per cent approval rating all of a sudden a movie that challenges the war is a demographically sound idea,' he said.

Thompson dismisses the oft-used conservative argument that Hollywood is out of touch with mainstream America, and he maintains that the media establishment is actually much better than the politicians at getting its message across.

'In the culture war for the American heart, Hollywood is a lot better than Washington at communicating with us,' he says. 'Whether these movie are influential or not depends on the movie. If the movie tells a compelling story, it could have an enormous influence on public opinion.'


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americahaters; bushhaters; celebrityairheads; enemywithin; hollyweird; hollywoodleft; hollywoodleftists; hollywoodsewerpipe; radicalleftists
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1 posted on 04/05/2006 8:58:11 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Three more movies I have zero interest in seeing. No loss.


2 posted on 04/05/2006 8:59:45 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. " TR)
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To: jmc1969
With support for George W Bush's war in Iraq at an all time low, some of the biggest names in Hollywood are working on movies that are likely to increase criticism even further.

Yeah, right. Likely to preach to the choir and drive ticket sales even lower.
3 posted on 04/05/2006 9:00:12 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: jmc1969

I'm gonna save money on popcorn. I have a feeling these movies won't do as well as they hope.


4 posted on 04/05/2006 9:01:29 PM PDT by soloNYer
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To: jmc1969
i.e. with the perception that the war is unpopular, the perception shall be pushed that the war is unpopular
5 posted on 04/05/2006 9:04:11 PM PDT by impatient
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...a movie that challenges the war is a demographically sound idea.

Somebody's been hitting the weed planter a little too early, I perceive.

6 posted on 04/05/2006 9:04:52 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: jmc1969

Criticism of what? That we shouldn't leave the Iraqis to the terrorists? Leftists are very sick, immoral people, and they cause the deaths of untold innocents.


7 posted on 04/05/2006 9:05:01 PM PDT by Williams
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With support for George W Bush's war in Iraq at an all time low,

I had to stop here. What pray tell is "George W Bush's war in Iraq"? First of all (most importantly), such a war is America's war, not "George W Bush's". But besides that, what "war in Iraq" is there taking place at the moment which needs peoples's "support"? Are they talking about the one that commenced in 2003 and concluded within 3 weeks as Baghdad was taken? But that war is over. Why do people speak about it in the present tense?

Oh I see, he's talking about the occupation/counterinsurgency in defense of Iraq's new democratic government - that's what he means by "George W Bush's war in Iraq". So weird.

If "support" for the occupation/counterinsurgency is really falling, I'd bet that one reason for that is that media people still insist on (inaccurately) calling it "the war in Iraq" so as to generate maximal fatigue with it....

8 posted on 04/05/2006 9:08:26 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Marine_Uncle; Dog; Cap Huff; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Straight Vermonter; Wiz; Southack; GOPJ; ...

Hollywood hates America and clearly wants us to lose. But, the good news is these movies are all a year away. Iraq will look and feel very different a year from now after we have a unified government and 100,000 more Iraqi troops and police on the streets.


9 posted on 04/05/2006 9:09:12 PM PDT by jmc1969
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"Robert Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse University, says this willingness of Hollywood to make movies about an ongoing war is unprecedented."

Bullfeathers. Hollywood cranked out many patriotic films during WWII. Robert Thompson is either a bad with facts, considers popular culture to have begun during the Vietnam era or both.
10 posted on 04/05/2006 9:14:14 PM PDT by M1911A1
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Robert Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse University, says this willingness of Hollywood to make movies about an ongoing war is unprecedented.

Oh, puh-leeeeeeze. Look at all the films that came out during World War II. Perhaps the writer of this article meant there's a big difference in the anti-American attitudes of wartime Hollywood this time around.

I just Googled up Hollywood's WWII Guide: World War II Combat Movies:

"Ninety million Americans went to the movies every week during World War II. The shows began with a newsreel. The audience saw Hitler dancing a jig or Pearl Harbor engulfed in flames or Roosevelt meeting with Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin. A cartoon followed, perhaps Bugs Bunny "Nipping the Nips." Then came the main attraction, with Errol Flynn spitting grenade pins out of his mouth or John Wayne using a bulldozer to push an enemy tank off a cliff."

<snip>

"Much more than mere entertainment, the combat films of World War II were veritable civic lessons that taught Americans winning the war required the country to live up to its democratic values."

11 posted on 04/05/2006 9:15:45 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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'That has certainly changed. With the president at a 36 per cent approval rating all of a sudden a movie that challenges the war is a demographically sound idea,' he said.

So big, bad, brave Progressive Hollywood has to wait for the poll numbers to be right before making such "important" movies?

12 posted on 04/05/2006 9:17:06 PM PDT by 300winmag
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Excuse me, when has Hollywood EVER backed up the war in Iraq? These are the same people who made "Paradise Now" and "Munich".

Saying these people are turning against the war is like saying Karl Marx is turning against Capitalism.


13 posted on 04/05/2006 9:31:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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Wait until they start making movies like Valley of the Wolves Iraq.


14 posted on 04/05/2006 9:33:54 PM PDT by jmc1969
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If all goes according to plan. Those movies may be dropped, for fear no one will go to see them.


15 posted on 04/05/2006 9:35:43 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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Bullfeathers. Hollywood cranked out many patriotic films during WWII. Robert Thompson is either a bad with facts, considers popular culture to have begun during the Vietnam era or both.

Yup...but a film-maker who produced a movie hoping for Germany or Japan to win would have been arrested for treason.

The useful idiots today are untouchable ......

16 posted on 04/05/2006 9:36:55 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Sadly, the ratings one the war won't be able to turn around that fast I suspect.

What will happen is that over the next year the US death rate will slow and Iraqi deaths will slow. But, not enough likely to get the presidents approval on the war back into the high 40s or low 50s a year from now.

If things go right by late 2007 I think Americans will finally figure out that we are winning in Iraq.

How long do you think it will take?


17 posted on 04/05/2006 9:40:37 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

"Respected directors"?? Ain't no such thing anymore.


18 posted on 04/05/2006 9:48:12 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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I mean to say the president ratings on the war.

The problem with the current situation is all al-Qaeda has to do or Sadr has to do is kill a few people in Baghdad and it gets on the Evening News and Iraq looks bad.


19 posted on 04/05/2006 9:52:10 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
Best resource I've seen on this issue:

Celebrity Political Donation List

I'm hardpressed to find anyone missing.

20 posted on 04/05/2006 9:53:55 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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