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1 posted on 04/04/2006 8:56:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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2 posted on 04/04/2006 8:57:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: EternalVigilance

Immigration?

Colonization?

I don't see either one. What I see is occupation.


3 posted on 04/04/2006 8:59:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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bump


4 posted on 04/04/2006 9:06:38 AM PDT by jpsb
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"Accepting the presence of large numbers of people who maintain their allegiance to a foreign flag, a foreign language and a foreign culture – and who mean to claim many of the benefits but none of the responsibilities of citizenship – is a departure from the tradition that built this nation, and the culmination of inept policies that will end in its dissolution."

Should have included foreign religion. No one seems to be complaining about mosques going up everywhere.


7 posted on 04/04/2006 9:11:26 AM PDT by mlc9852
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[ Immigration, yes! Colonization, no! ]

Immigration.. NO.. Colonization.. hell NO.. until some semblance of reality is gained..
The horse is out of the BARN... closing the door is quite silly.. Investigate the guards..
Indite the rustlers..

9 posted on 04/04/2006 9:14:12 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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10 posted on 04/04/2006 9:15:46 AM PDT by EveningStar
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Why don't we just annex Mexico... after all they already have the oil rigs in the gulf...


11 posted on 04/04/2006 9:17:19 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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The smiling faces of tomorrow's radical lawyers and politicians!
Yale University MEChA

Cornell West and friends help outYale's MEChA organization.They'll march free for any radical cause!
17 posted on 04/04/2006 9:25:58 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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Congress debates the future of illegal immigrants about 20 years too late. These immigrants squat here and intend to stay no matter what laws are passed.

Conservatively, there are 12 million immigrants straining the US economy. GWB wants to allowguest workers to stay herre for up to six years and then return home after that.

Hah.

And of course, children born to these immigrants are automatically U.S. citizens, which adds another complication.

Now let's look at how such policies reverberated negatively on other countries. Germany instituted a Gast Arbeiter (guest worker) program for immigrants, who stayed and blended into the German population. The Gast Arbeiters became a political force shaping German domestic and foreign policy to the detriment of indigenous populations.

France has experienced an influx of North Africa immigrants who are causing political and social problems in that country. Such problems arise when there is no measured immigration influx.

Illegal immigrants will not return from whence they came after six years and will become part of the fabric of the US. They then will have a strong voice in shaping domestic and foreign policy.

The current organized immigrant activity, carrying Mexican flags and shouting down anything that stands in their way, indicates they have learned the ropes of political agit-prop, and have already begun to achieve their hidden agenda.


19 posted on 04/04/2006 9:31:30 AM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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...the effort to develop and enforce responsible immigration policies aims to assure that the invitation to hope is not extended in ways that destroy its fulfillment.

As usual, Dr. Keyes puts it more succinctly and accurately than I ever could.

Too bad nobody listens to him.

20 posted on 04/04/2006 9:31:45 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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ixnay on the shuncoloniztay alktay. i still hold out hope hundreds of thousands of economically incentivized Americans will emigrate to the Orinoco region of Venezuela. They can send back oil instead of money. Marching with the US flag would be de riguer. Same same.


21 posted on 04/04/2006 9:33:26 AM PDT by kinghorse
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I agree with most of what Keyes has to say here. Most of the arguments you see elsewhere focus on how American business is benefiting and exploiting these people, and how they are a drain on public resources. I have not seen this other argument -- that these people are here for their own benefit with no intention or desire to become citizens.

Keyes seems to favor legal immigration and citizenship, however, even of the unskilled and uneducated. He says this is good in that it will prevent "taxation without representation". I disagree with this. Increasing the class of legal workers that are unskilled will still depress wages and result in no taxes being paid.

As the progressive income tax brackets ratchet to higher income levels each year, this means that more and more people will fall off the income-tax rolls. This is the opposite of "taxation without representation" -- it is, in effect, "representation without taxation". Increasing the number of voters that do not pay for larger government is a recipe for disaster.

Keyes has in the past supported a NRST, but doesn't mention it in this article. That is disappointing, because I think it is a critical piece to the illegal immigration problem. Even with the NRST replacing income taxes, however, adding to the pool of legal low-wage unskilled labor has the same problem. These people would still consume public services and vote, but they would not pay any net taxes because they'd be eligible for the FCA. We would still have "representation without taxation."

We need mechanization to replace the manual labor that is currently being done by illegal aliens, not more legal aliens or even citizens performing low-wage manual labor. Legal immigration should be limited to people capable of performing skilled work. Retaining the manual labor jobs just lowers the standard of living for all Americans.


23 posted on 04/04/2006 9:34:23 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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"Moral reasoning that ignores the common good is in fact not moral at all."

Too bad this won't fit on a bumper sticker..... ;)

29 posted on 04/04/2006 9:43:17 AM PDT by BossLady (Let's Just Buy Mexico and Get It Over With Already......)
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Teddy had it so right! Not Kennedy, but Roosevelt!





Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Every American citizen needs to read this!


30 posted on 04/04/2006 9:45:02 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (12 TH GENERATION PATROIT.)
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Dr. Keyes is absolutely right.


33 posted on 04/04/2006 10:09:21 AM PDT by hershey
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excellent post. I hope dr Keyes moves to Texas and runs for Senate there


37 posted on 04/04/2006 11:00:37 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Bump!


48 posted on 04/04/2006 1:45:55 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


52 posted on 04/04/2006 3:45:57 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Dr. Alan Keyes Ping!

53 posted on 04/04/2006 7:38:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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At the same time, he and others like him want us to believe that the latest so-called immigration bill is somehow in line with the great tradition of immigration that literally created the American people. This is a lie.

It is a LIE that will destroy our middle class if we allow this outrage to happen. Bush knows this is a lie. He just doesn't care.

56 posted on 04/04/2006 8:02:05 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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