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GOP Senators Seek Immigration Compromise
Townhall.com ^ | 4 April 2006 | SUZANNE GAMBOA

Posted on 04/03/2006 7:36:42 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Republican senators uncertain of support for a proposal to allow illegal immigrants with jobs to remain in this country reached for a compromise late Monday to bolster votes for the measure.

Meeting into the evening in the office of Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., the lawmakers considered allowing illegal immigrants who have been in the country more than five years or other connections to the United States to remain legally and eventually seek citizenship.

"We're looking at the roots concept, and that is if they have been here more than five years," Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said after leaving the meeting. "That is a reasonable line as to people who have roots who ought to be treated differently. And if they have been here less then five years, they do not have roots to the same extent and can be treated differently, and that is what we're looking at."

The fate of those with less time in the country was unclear, but Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, suggested they might be asked to go to ports of entry, like the Texas border city of El Paso.

A similar proposal was made in Specter's committee for younger, unmarried and more recent illegal immigrants before they re-entered as authorized guest workers.

Specter said the proposals _ mostly brought forward by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. _ would be spelled out to other Republicans on Tuesday morning.

"What we're trying to figure out is something which will be workable so 11 million undocumented will come forward, not create a fugitive class," he said.

The evening work was a sign of the pressure senators are feeling to get a bill passed by week's end. Hagel and Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., who also participated in the meeting, said they were looking for a bill that would appeal to a broader base and clear the Senate to begin negotiations with the House.

The House passed a tougher bill last year that would make being in the country illegally a felony.

The Senate began its second week of debate Monday on immigration, but had yet to resolve which of three major proposals it would move forward.

A bill approved by the Judiciary Committee _ based on a proposal by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass. _ would allow illegal immigrants in the United States before Jan. 7, 2004 and who have jobs, to work legally for an additional six years and eventually become citizens. The proposal has drawn opposition from some who consider it amnesty.

A proposal by Frist does not deal with illegal immigrants but boosts border enforcement and cracks down on employers who hire illegal workers.

A third bill proposed by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., would give illegal immigrants up to five years to leave the country before they can return legally to apply for permanent residence or be guest workers.

Earlier Monday, the Senate voted 91-1 in favor of a proposal by Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., to allow legal immigrants fluent in English to become U.S. citizens in four years rather than five.

An estimated 7.2 million legal permanent residents have lived in the United States long enough to become Americans, according to the Homeland Security Department's Citizenship and Immigration Services office. The wait to become an American is five years, three years if the legal permanent resident marries a U.S. citizen.

Alexander said a shorter naturalization wait might motivate more green card holders to seek U.S. citizenship.

"After we secure our borders, after we create a legal status for foreigners who work here and study here, the third indispensable step is to help prospective citizens become Americans," Alexander said.

His measure also up to $500 in vouchers to immigrants to pay for English courses and grants to groups that provide classes in U.S. history and civics, paid for by a portion of fees collected from applicants for naturalization, green cards and other immigration benefits.

President Bush is backing proposals for temporary work programs as a way "because that will relieve pressure off the border," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

"It will allow our Border Patrol agents to focus on the criminals and the terrorists, the smugglers and traffickers that are trying to come into this country for the wrong reasons."

Also Monday, the Senate voted 84-6 in favor of providing $50 million over five years for crime fighting by local law enforcement agencies within 100 miles of the U.S.-Mexican border. The House authorized $100 million over a year for local officials within 25 miles of the border.

Earlier, a Senate panel wrestled with how to reduce a backlog of immigration cases in federal appeals courts. Most of the appeals involve people seeking asylum or those who are refugees. The appeals have risen from 1,723 cases in 2000 to 12,349 in 2005.

Sen. Lamar Alexander's amendment is S1815.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borderlist; compromise; gop; illegals; immigration; senators
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To: Altair333
I passed thru El Paso on Saturday.

I stopped to fill up at three Exxon stations.

The card readers were either damaged or disabled at all three stations, forcing me to enter the store to present my credit card.

Not a single one of the attendants could speak or understand a word of English.

I finally found a working card reader at a Fina. I don't know whether the attendant there could speak English or not.

41 posted on 04/03/2006 8:50:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: HiJinx
Compromise is willingly giving your opponent that which you would not allow him to take by force.
42 posted on 04/03/2006 8:51:55 PM PDT by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: satchmodog9

"Compromise is for sissies. Screw that."

Comporomise is the art of losing using doublespeak!


43 posted on 04/03/2006 8:53:50 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Soul Seeker
As Roosevelt said, nothing in politics happens by chance. If it happened, it was intended.

The fact that an ineffective bill is even being discussed means that there is no intent to enforce any law concerning this topic. If I lived elsewhere, I would definitely come here illegally, because it is impossible to get here in a reasonable time otherwise.

When it is easier to steal something than earn it, then most will steal it. So it is with immigration.

I am feeling very much as though I will have no candidate in the race, regardless.
44 posted on 04/03/2006 8:56:40 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: Shermy

"I don't like the "felon" provision BTW"

That's an absolute must!

With that in place no illegal ever caught can ever apply for a green card or immigration.

The do gooders that are aiding them can be put in prison or fined heavy enough to make the paupers.


45 posted on 04/03/2006 8:59:09 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Altair333

All the illegals will do is forge papers proving they have been here 10 years. This compromise is ridiculous. There is no way they are going to force half the illegals out if they can't force all of them.


46 posted on 04/03/2006 9:01:07 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Soul Seeker

Good point about Dubai.


47 posted on 04/03/2006 9:01:23 PM PDT by Shermy (President Bush, specify what jobs Americans won't do, then we'll talk.)
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To: dalereed
The do gooders that are aiding them can be put in prison or fined heavy enough to make the paupers.

And you will be made a felon as well, nitwit. But heck, it will be everybody else. Good luck.

48 posted on 04/03/2006 9:02:40 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Good? What's good about? I see no mention of the rule-of-law concept. No mention of the 'American citizens elected us' concept.


49 posted on 04/03/2006 9:04:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
With a fence......many things are possible.

Without a fence.......it's GOP suicide.

50 posted on 04/03/2006 9:06:00 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Altair333
Don't be conned- the plan all along was for the House to pass border security so they could look good back home and then for the Senate to do a comprehensive plan and the bills to be merged in committee.

In case you didn't notice, both Hastert and Boehner have been making noises about accepting a guest worker bill.

Exactly...Congress reminds me of the "pearl dealers" in John Steinbeck's book The Pearl. They all work for the same boss and pretend to be bidding independently for the valuable pearl. The high bid is of course below its worth. We are being had once again by the elites.

51 posted on 04/03/2006 9:07:03 PM PDT by rolling_stone (question authority!)
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To: okie01

That's nothing. I live in a mountain town in northern CO. Last summer I was getting gas at the Exxon station. Same as you the card reader was broken. Same as you the attendant couldn't or wouldn't speak English.


52 posted on 04/03/2006 9:07:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

"And you will be made a felon as well"

I don't know how, I hsve never hired one and I don't contract out any work of any kind. I won't do work for anyone that does hire them and tell them what a POS they are to their face, in fact I won't do work for a democrap.

I surely wouldn't aid one in any way, i'd spit on them first.


53 posted on 04/03/2006 9:09:15 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Aussie Dasher
No terms except unconditional and immediate surrender can be accepted. I propose to move immediately upon your works.

- Ulysses S. Grant.

No amnesty, no guest workers, and a fence.

Tancredo for President!
54 posted on 04/03/2006 9:10:37 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"What we're trying to figure out is something which will be workable so 11 million undocumented will come forward, not create a fugitive class," he (Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb) said.

There's a big problem right there. You're trying to figure out how to appease the cattlemen and processers in your state instead of dealing with the problem. Start fining employers big bucks and send them to jail and the illegals will leave by themselves. Dry up their jobs.

55 posted on 04/03/2006 9:15:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: dalereed
Do you have a United States passport? Have you ever traveled outside of the confines of the United States of America? Invested United States Dollars in an enterprise? Since you have never hired a contractor in any capacity whatsoever, I doubt your credentials as a conservative. Sounds kind of Klannish.

Have fun looking for the Union label, comrade. Spit on me "the man", and enjoy your May Day celebration.

56 posted on 04/03/2006 9:17:59 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Aussie Dasher

CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER FIRST, then frist out the details.


57 posted on 04/03/2006 9:20:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I have a passport, i've probably spent a total of 3 years from a day to 2 weeks at a time over the last 60 years outside the US, I was a contractor for over 40 years but when I remodeled my home I wouldn't even let any of my employees work on it, nobody but myself does work on anything that I own, and that includes all trades. I don't and won't ever own stock in any company other than the stock in my own closely held corp.

Secondly, you csan go straight to hell!


58 posted on 04/03/2006 9:24:32 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Trteamer

...No mention of a fence...

You know what? Screw em. Can you imagine the outrage if donations poured in to border ranchers to construct a real fence on their own land?

And it was then patroled by volunteers?

Would they then outlaw the protection of private property to benefit the illegals?

I'm wondering how far they are willing to go.


59 posted on 04/03/2006 9:25:18 PM PDT by planekT ([---www.wadejacoby.com/pedro---})
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To: TigersEye
Start fining employers big bucks and send them to jail and the illegals will leave by themselves. Dry up their jobs.
Great. Let us build more prison capacity for anyone that DARES to start an enterprise. And the elderly are a big drag upon the economy, along with the retards. Do you posit that we should exterminate these undesirables for "living room"? Heck, we can get rid of old people, mental retards, and beaners in one fell swoop. I contend that you are a nitwit. Please prove me wrong.
60 posted on 04/03/2006 9:26:02 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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