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Airlines to Begin Charging for Amenities
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/3/06 | Leslie Miller - ap

Posted on 04/03/2006 1:21:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Ask for a pillow and blanket to help get through a long flight and you may be out of luck. Or you may be able to buy a "comfort package" from Air Canada for $2.

Like to check your luggage curbside? That could cost up to $3 a bag.

Airlines are starting to charge for many services that once were free — such as assigned seating, paper tickets and blankets.

Air travelers who don't fly often may be in for some unpleasant surprises when they reach the airport this summer.

"They're going to be confused and they're going to be somewhat upset," said Kevin Mitchell, president of the Business Travelers Coalition. "Is it going to stop them from flying? No."

Intense competition from low-fare airlines along with high jet-fuel prices have led many established carriers to cut back or charge passengers for amenities.

Many airlines no longer serve meals on flights, instead charging for snack boxes and sandwiches.

Sharon Ansara, a government supervisor from El Paso, Texas, flew an American Airlines flight from Dallas to Washington Monday morning.

"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks."

American spokesman Tim Wagner said that passengers have made it clear that their first priority in buying an airline ticket is price. The company offers a la carte services — such as snack packs — for those willing to pay for them.

Air Canada, which recently emerged from bankruptcy, decided against eliminating pillows and blankets, as some airlines have done. Instead, the airline decided to give passengers the choice of buying an inflatable pillow and a light fleece blanket for $2, according to spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur.

There are limits to what passengers will pay for.

American Eagle, which flies commuter flights for American, experimented in January with charging passengers for soft drinks.

"They evaluated customer response," Wagner said. "The customer response was, 'No, we don't want to pay $1 for a soft drink.'" The test ended, he said.

Some services once taken for granted are now viewed as amenities as the burden of ticketing now falls on the passenger with the home computer instead of airline employees.

Talking to an airline reservation agent instead of booking a ticket on the Internet will add $5 or $10 to the price of a ticket. A paper ticket instead of a computer-generated one will cost $20 or $30 for a domestic flight.

Passengers are also finding that the limits on baggage size and weight are lower, and that airlines are enforcing them. For most airlines, passengers are charged at least $25 for a bag that weighs more than 50 pounds. A third checked bag will cost $80 on many airlines.

Some airlines are now even charging to reserve seats with extra legroom.

United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room.

Some international carriers also charge for aisle or bulkhead seats. Northwest Airlines in March began charging $15 for exit rows some forward aisle seats.

Carol Mundt, a retiree who lives in the Washington area, travels frequently for visits and vacations. She heard about Northwest's new seat assignment charges.

"I was appalled that they would charge me for my aisle seat," she said while waiting to pick up a friend at Washington's Reagan National Airport.

Northwest spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch said Northwest has to be able to compete against low-cost airlines like Southwest, which doesn't assign seats at all.

The a la carte pricing approach is working for Southwest, which carried more people in the U.S. than any other airline. With the exception of overweight and oversize bags, Southwest doesn't charge for its services.

A soft drink, a bag of pretzels and a changed ticket don't cost extra, said Southwest spokesman Ed Stewart.

But Southwest doesn't offer services such as assigned seating or keeping an eye on an unaccompanied child.

Continental Airlines is one of the few that still offers hot meals on domestic flights.

Sandy Gorie, 45, a real estate project manager, lives in Cleveland and takes Continental to Washington on Monday mornings and returns on Friday nights.

"I've been doing this since November and my Continental experience has been great," she said.


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To: EagleUSA

Maybe there is a business here: sell your food for just under what the flight attendants are charging. Sort of like the guy at the front of Home Depot selling hot dogs.


21 posted on 04/03/2006 1:40:11 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: NormsRevenge

"United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room."

I'd pay somewhere in that range for the extra space, given the choice, at least for longer flights (anything over 2 hours, and maybe even then). That's my 6'3" on the subject.


22 posted on 04/03/2006 1:45:53 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: pikachu

My problem with flying is getting squished in a seat that is only comfortable if you are under 5 ft tall and only weigh about 90 lbs....


23 posted on 04/03/2006 1:47:34 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: saganite; skip_intro

One to stand, two to sit, and toilet paper is an extra two dollars. (Basic idea was from the movie PCU.)


24 posted on 04/03/2006 1:56:00 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise
One to stand, two to sit, and toilet paper is an extra two dollars. (Basic idea was from the movie PCU.)

One pair of "Depends" 50 cents?

25 posted on 04/03/2006 2:03:02 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: NormsRevenge
well they could dump your 80 yr old disabled mom next to an affirmative action TSA employee who will yell at her and threaten her...and force her to stand and walk even though she has a doctors written order to not do any of those things as they may be life threatening...

TSA is above the law of common decency...to anyone but arab men between the ages of 18 and 45 that is...

If I gotta fly there.....I aint going...

26 posted on 04/03/2006 2:05:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (This 'Guest Worker Program' Is To Border Security as 'Campaign Finance Reform' Is To Free Speech)
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To: EagleUSA

Exactly! Tip: be sure to use lots of fragrant spices in your lunch/dinner (ground cumin, 5-spice powder, fresh thyme, fresh ground allspice and so forth). Improves the cabin atmosphere enormously.


27 posted on 04/03/2006 2:06:49 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Mark was here

Either pay 50 cents for the depends or 25 dollars for the seat cleaning bill.


28 posted on 04/03/2006 2:11:35 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The a la carte pricing approach is working for Southwest, which carried more people in the U.S. than any other airline.

Is that correct? Southwest has the highest domestic volume??? Dang.

29 posted on 04/03/2006 2:12:26 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: mtbopfuyn
How fast do you think they'll waive the barf bag fee when little Billy starts spewing across three rows?

They won't waive the barf bag fee.

They'll just charge each passanger in those three rows a Vomit Protection Fee. ;-)

30 posted on 04/03/2006 2:14:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: -YYZ-

"United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room."

Here's a tip if you're flying to Europe. British Air has something called Premium Economy, big comfy chair with a foot-rest in a separate cabin from economy. Same meal and service as economy. It ranges about $200 to $500 over the cost of an economy class ticket, depending upon time of year and your departure city. Best way to get to Europe comfortably without breaking the bank.


31 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:22 PM PDT by CATravelAgent (Unless you're the lead dog, the view is always the same)
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To: NormsRevenge

Amenities?? They have AMENITIES???


32 posted on 04/03/2006 2:21:53 PM PDT by redhead (www.opinions3.com and http://halfbakedsourdough.blogspot.com, if you would like to read more...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Airlines are starting to charge for many services that once were free — such as assigned seating, paper tickets and blankets.

The next time I fly to Europe I will gladly pay extra for an aisle seat. 9 hours from Atlanta to Paris was miserable next to the window!

Incidentally, when I flew from Paris to Kiev on a Ukrainian carrier I ordered a beer. When I reached for my wallet I was shocked to learn that beer was free! I wasn't expecting this.

33 posted on 04/03/2006 2:22:37 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: SAJ
Exactly! Tip: be sure to use lots of fragrant spices in your lunch/dinner

LOL...set the tone with some shrimp cocktail, then put on a lobster bib, spread some newspaper over your tray-table, and then bring out a big Dungeness crab and work it over for an hour or two. "Excuse me, do they have any of those little shell-cracker plier-things in First Class?"

34 posted on 04/03/2006 2:24:48 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: NormsRevenge

The call button is soon to be replaced with a bill slot/credit card reader.


35 posted on 04/03/2006 2:26:18 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: saganite
"$2.00 to go to the bathroom. It's coming!"

No problem for me.
I have never in my life seen the insides of an airline bathroom, and since 1999, I have flown from the US to Bangkok, Sao Paulo, and as many as 3 round trips per year to Europe.
It is mostly psychological.
I am trying to see how long I can keep my record.
36 posted on 04/03/2006 2:27:43 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: EagleUSA
I take my own food now. Much better quality and I get what I want, when I want it. :-)

When are they going to get the movie theater attitude: Outside food and drink is strictly forbidden. Violators will be made to walk the plank.

I'm waiting for airlines to start packing two people in per seat. $50 extra for the top spot. $100 extra for an attractive seatmate of the appropriate sex.

37 posted on 04/03/2006 2:38:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: skip_intro
$2.00 to go to the bathroom. It's coming! That would be a great moneymaker! Leave one free bathroom back in steerage class, and charge for all the others. You ought to register your intellectual property before someone else steals it.

Except I would get seated next to the guy who refuses to pay for the bathroom and instead brings on his own Depends !!!

38 posted on 04/03/2006 2:39:34 PM PDT by cryptomc
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To: cryptomc

Okay folks, were passing around a bucket to take up a collection to lower the landing gear.


39 posted on 04/03/2006 2:42:32 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Alberta's Child
The ideal scenario would be for large numbers of these people to simply stop flying. It wasn't all that long ago that airline travel was considered a luxury. Maybe it needs to become a luxury once again.

Amen! Yes the airlines are not living in a supply and demand world. Like homeowners insurance in So. Florida pre-Andrew, they are not charging enough and simply just want to gain market share. They are selling a seat at let's say an average of $200 roundtrip when the real price should be $300 to cover ALL their cost, not simply the cost of the flight crew, maintenance and fuel. When the airlines don't charge enough they have to get more and more creative in cost cutting. Most airlines have cut costs to the bone, working on 1% body fat and the reality of Darwinian capitalism is coming to pass. Like the opposite of collusion, market pressure and competition so strong that they all wind up putting each other out of business. If Delta, Northwest and the other major carriers would get sane and price the seats accordingly, after a rough patch where the discount carriers would die then the airline industry could emerge much healthier. Example is flights from Orlando to WPB are $150 roundtrip. I mean why is it necessary to fly when the car trip would take 2.5 hours? How much is the airline blowing on that route?
40 posted on 04/03/2006 2:44:43 PM PDT by lwg8tr
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