Scientists cheer holocaust wish (professor who wants 90% of human race exterminated by ebola)

WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/2/06 | WorldNetDaily

[wagglebee]

What would happen if a world-renowned scientist and evolutionary ecologist told hundreds of his colleagues that 90 percent of the human race needed to be wiped out by exposure to ebola or some other deadly virus?

Apparently, according to a scientist who claims to have witnessed such a remarkable event one month ago, the fiend would get a standing ovation and an award.

Forrest Mims III

That's the story being told by Forrest Mims III, a member of the Texas Academy of Science, chairman of its environmental science section and editor of the Citizen Scientist.

The speech Mims heard was delivered by Eric R. Pianka, a lizard expert from the University of Texas. It is recounted in detail in the latest issue of the Citizen Scientist.

"We're no better than bacteria," Mims quoted Pianka as saying in his condemnation of the human race, which, he claimed, is overpopulating the Earth.

The only way to save the planet for the rest of the species is to reduce the human population to 10 percent of its current number.

Eric R. Pianka

"He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse," writes Mims. "War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. Pianka then displayed a slide showing rows of human skulls, one of which had red lights flashing from its eye sockets. AIDS is not an efficient killer, he explained, because it is too slow. His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs."

Mims notes that when Pianka finished his remarks, the audience of fellow scientists and students burst out in sustained applause.

During a question-and-answer sessions, the audience laughed approvingly when Pianka offered the bird flu as another vehicle toward achieving his goal. They also chuckled when he suggested it was time to sterilize everyone on Earth.

"What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us?" asked one member of the audience.

"I speak to the converted!" Pianka replied.

Mims said he spoke glowingly of the police state in China that enforces a one-child policy.

"Smarter people have fewer kids," Mims quoted Pianka as saying.

Following the question-and-answer session, Mims says "almost every scientist, professor and college student present stood to their feet and vigorously applauded the man who had enthusiastically endorsed the elimination of 90 percent of the human population. Some even cheered. Dozens then mobbed the professor at the lectern to extend greetings and ask questions."

Mims notes five hours later, the Texas Academy of Science presented Pianka with a plaque in recognition of his being named 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist.

"When the banquet hall filled with more than 400 people responded with enthusiastic applause, I walked out in protest," he writes.

Mims, an electronics author, has written some 60 books that have sold 7.5 million copies.

[Doc Savage]

As I have often said. Imagine you go to sleep tonight and tomorrow morning you wake up to find that there are no more:

1. Prisoners in jail. They have vanished.

2. No drug dealers or drug users.

3. No homosexuals, transexuals or deviates.

4. No rapists, murderers, muggers, hackers, identity theft criminals,....you get the picture.

You'd be walking on cloud nine all day!

[VOA]

Oops, I didn't mean to sound snippy (but I can see how my post could have).

If I did sound a bit negative on Pianka this early on, it's because
he sounds about like a fair number of enviro-extremists I've met in
academia (and Southern Caliornia).
When you really disect their philosophy, it appears their real objective is to
get "all the other people out of the way" so they and their anointed clique
can revel in "their Mother Earth".
About the only folks external to their clique they can stand are
"the little people" to take care of all the manual labor.
That's why the Sierra Club just couldn't bring themselves to come down
hard on illegal immigration.
They'll tolerate a bit of environmental degradation, just to have cheap
babysitters, housekeepers, gardeners and pool-cleaners.

[robertpaulsen]

"Your comment was debunked a long time ago and is simply not true."

It's true.

The world population today is 6,605,000,000. Texas covers 268,601 square miles. One square mile = 27,878,400 square feet.

Doing the math, that works out to 1134 square feet for every person, or 4535 square feet for a family of four.

Put the three bedroom house with a nice front yard and room for a garden in the back on a 45X100 property instead of 50X100. My bad. And I said the world population would fit in the State of Texas -- I didn't say it could live in the State of Texas.

[gondramB]

"He isn't worth second guessing - see his own website."

Well he certainly sounds like he likes lizards better than people but I know physicists who like equations better than people....

He said "One such drug. Exendin-4, derived from Gila monster venom is currently being evaluated for treatment of type II diabetes" - Oddly enough the doctor I saw on Friday told me I might be a candidate for this and to talk to my endocrinologist about it.

>>Any day now, some enterprising genetic engineer will transplant elephant growth genes into cattle to make bigger and better cows! You want a bigger chicken?: I'll transplant some ostrich genes into chickens! We are audaciously bypassing natural selection and creating whatever phenotypes we think best. <<

Elephant and pig DNA just won't splice - Southpark ping

>>If humans do not control their own population (and we seem unwilling and unable to do so), then other forces will certainly act to control our population. The four horseman of the apocalypse (conquest, war, famine, and death) are all candidates. Most likely, lethal virulent microbes like HIV and Ebola zaire will set limits on the growth of human populations.<<

This sounds like what I thought he might have actually said at the conference - its a common position in the scientific community.

>>People everywhere today stand ready to rape and pillage their wildernesses ("wastelands") for whatever they can be forced to yield.<<

He's a liberal

>>"The tragedy of the commons develops in this way. Picture a pasture open to all.<<

But at least he is not a communist.

>>Earth's atmosphere is unusual in that it has a relatively high oxygen content (about 21 per cent).<<

Like many narrow minded scientists he sounds foolish when he goes outside his field - we have no idea what "most planets" are like.

>>Until recently these two opposing phenomena more or less balanced one another, but now the balance has clearly shifted and the "greenhouse effect" is leading to rapid global warming.<<

See above comment about scientists outside their field.

>>But, there can be no quick "technological fix" for earth's much maligned atmosphere<<

Actually we physicist know there is a fix, we just don't like to talk about it.

>>Unlimited cheap clean energy, such as that so ardently hoped for in the concept of cold fusion, would actually be one of the worst things that could possibly befall humans. Such energy would enable well-meaning but uninformed massive energy consumption and habitat destruction<<

And he is a "glass is half empty kind of guy - but we already knew that.

So all in all he sounds like a typical liberal lizard studier -not very hopeful but not standing out harmful or particularly noteworthy.

[gondramB]

"{"We don't have the professor's name."

Yes we do, it's Pianka."

Yeah, I missed that. I feel stupid.

[robertpaulsen]

See my post #103. You are correct.

[gondramB]

"Oops, I didn't mean to sound snippy (but I can see how my post could have).

If I did sound a bit negative on Pianka this early on, it's because
he sounds about like a fair number of enviro-extremists I've met in
academia (and Southern Caliornia). "

I didn't take it that way but thanks for that second reply. And yes, now that I know his name and have his web site he does sound like an enviro-extremist albeit a fairly typical one. It doesn't sound like he wants to personally spread ebola.

[Galveston Grl]

What is good is bad and what is bad is good. These are the times we live in.

[HangnJudge]

This from a blog discussing the speech at the meeting

http://brenmccnnll.blogspot.com/2006/03/dr.html

Dr. Pianka's talk at the TAS meeting was mostly of the problems humans are causing as we rapidly proliferate around the globe. While what he had to say is way too vast to remember it all, moreover to relay it here in this blog, the bulk of his talk was that he's waiting for the virus that will eventually arise and kill off 90% of human population. In fact, his hope, if you can call it that, is that the ebola virus which attacks humans currently (but only through blood transmission) will mutate with the ebola virus that attacks monkeys airborne to create an airborne ebola virus that attacks humans. He's a radical thinker, that one! I mean, he's basically advocating for the death of all but 10% of the current population!

Worse, the blogger then states

And at the risk of sounding just as radical, I think he's right.

Humans are far too populous. We've used up our resources, and we're destroying the Earth at an accelerated pace. The more technology we create, the more damage we're capable of doing

The blogger, and many of this guys students are now full converts!

[Quix]

True.

Perhaps you are aware of this:

http://www.baen.com/library/067172052X/067172052X.htm

I like his works with Pournelle though I haven't read anything of either in a long time.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

Do the math. You could fit 1.5 billion houses in Texas with a lot size just under 50x100.

[Nuc1]

Many in the Texas Academy of Science gave this wing nut a standing ovation. Somewhere out there there is a self righteous scientist with access to vile things in full agreement with Pianka. At some point that scientist will act. What madness stalks us?

[Windsong]

Sometimes I wonder if the WND guys have eaten all of their MREs leftover from their failed Y2K predictions.

Biggest group of losers outside of Iran.

[HungarianGypsy]

Notice these types always are for killing off other people, but they are never the ones to sacrifice themselves. Because they are "too smart". Wonder what they would think if they got see everyone they knew and maybe even loved (if it's possible for these people) go through this. They probably wouldn't think it was so great then.

[My2Cents]

Mims gets a pass for what? He didn't make the hateful comments; he only reported them. Unless you're suggesting that scientists should cover for the outrageous statements of others in the fraternity.

[timer]

Very few of you seem to have even read the Book of Revelation and how you're all going to be exterminated. Jesus doesn't SAVE everybody.

[Doctor Stochastic]

I drove through there recently.

[Servant of the 9]

I do, however, have a list of people I plan on adding to the expedition.

Why?

Amusement.

So9

[Constantine XIII]

Or how the UN becomes this huge big-brother type organization with a police force that does things like prevent technological advancement or unsanctioned births.

[TheDon]

The guy doesn't go far enough. The earth must be restored to the state before bacteria arrived and mucked up everything.