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Iran fires world's fastest underwater missile-(some new info)
irna ^ | 4.2.06 | na

Posted on 04/02/2006 11:49:29 AM PDT by Flavius

Iran-Maneuver-Missile Iran on Sunday successfully test fired its fastest underwater missile in the `Holy Prophet war games' northwest of Persian Gulf.

Deputy commander of the Navy Forces of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) General Ali Fadavi told Central News Bureau (Islamic Republic of Iran's Broadcasting) that the domestically made missile, called `Hut', hits its target with a maximum speed of 100 meters per second.


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KEYWORDS: china; iran; russia; torpedo
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To: davisfh

Yes, this not an Iranian weapon. It is a Russian weapon called Shkval. The Germans also have one called the Barracuda, and we have one, but ours has not yet been made operational. Supposedly a Shkval misfired and sank the Kursk.


41 posted on 04/02/2006 12:44:06 PM PDT by gafusa
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To: gafusa

 

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/shkval.htm

VA-111 Shkval underwater rocket

 In 1995 it was revealed that Russia had developed an exceptionally high-speed unguided underwater missile which has no equivalent in the West. Code-named the Shkval (Squall), the new weapon travels at a velocity that would give a targeted vessel very little chance to perform evasive action. The missile has been characterized as a "revenge" weapon, which would be fired along the bearing of an incoming enemy torpedo. The Shkval may be considered a follow-on to the Russian BGT class of evasion torpedoes, which are fired in the direction of an incoming torpedo to try to force an attacking to evade (and hopefully snap the torpedo's guidance wires). The weapon was deployed in the early 1990s, and had been in service for years when the fact of its existence was disclosed.

Development begain in the 1960s, when the Research Institute NII-24 (Chief Designer Mikhail Merkulov) involved in the artillery ammunition research was instructed to launch the development of underwater high-speed missile to fight nuclear-powered submarines. On 14 May 1969, pursuant to a government resolution, NII-24 and GSKB-47 merged into the Research Institute of Applied Hydromechanics (NII PGM), which formed the basis of the present day 'Region' Scientific Production Association. Advances in the development of jet engines and fuel technologies, as well as outstanding results in the research of body motion under cavitation made it possible to design a unique missile with a dived speed much greater than that of conventional torpedoes.

When the suction on the low-pressure side of the propeller blade dips below ambient pressure [atmospheric plus hydrostatic head] the propeller blade cavitates -- a vacuum cavity forms. There is water vapor in the cavity, and the pressure is not a true vacuum, but equal to the vapor pressure of the water. High-speed propellers are often designed to operate in a fully-cavitating (supercavitating) mode. A high speed supercavitating projectile, while moving in the forward direction, rotates inside the cavity. This rotation leads to a series of impacts between the projectile tail and the cavity wall. The impacts affect the trajectory as well as the stability of motion of the projectile. The present paper discusses the in-flight dynamics of such a projectile. Despite the impacts with the cavity wall, the projectile nearly follows a straight line path. The frequency of the impacts between the projectile tail and cavity boundary increases initially, reaches a maximum, and then decreases gradually. The frequency of impacts decreases with the projectile's moment of inertia.

Apparently fired from standard 533mm torpedo tubes, Shkval has a range of about 7,500 yards. The weapon clears the tube at fifty knots, upon which its rocket fires, propelling the missile through the water at 360 kph [about 100 m/sec / 230 mph / 200-knots], three or four times as fast as conventional torpedoes. The solid-rocket propelled "torpedo" achieves high speeds by producing a high-pressure stream of bubbles from its nose and skin, which coats the torpedo in a thin layer of gas and forms a local "envelope" of supercavitating bubbles. Carrying a tactical nuclear warhead initiated by a timer, it would destroy the hostile submarine and the torpedo it fired. The Shkval high-speed underwater missile is guided by an auto-pilot rather than by a homing head as on most torpedoes.

There are no evident countermeasures to such a weapon, its employment could put adversary naval forces as a considerable disadvantage. One such scenario is a rapid attack situation wherein a sudden detection of a threat submarine is made, perhaps at relatively short range, requiring an immediate response to achieve weapon on target and to ensure survival. Apparently guidance is a problem, and the initial version of the Shkval was unguided However, the Russians have been advertising a homing version, which runs out at very high speed, then slows to search.

A prototype of the modernised "Shkval", which was exhibited at the 1995 international armaments show in Abu Dhabi, was discarded. An improved model was designed with a conventional (non-nuclear) warhead and a guided targeting system, which substantially enhances its combat effectiveness. The first tests of the modernised Shkval torpedo were held by the Russian Pacific Fleet in the spring of 1998.

The 'Region' Scientific Production Association has developed developed an export modification of the missile, 'Shkval-E'. Russia began marketing this conventionally armed version of the Shkval high-speed underwater rocket at the IDEX 99 exhibition in Abu Dhabi in early 1999. The concept of operations for this missile requires the crew of a submarine, ship or the coast guard define the target's parameters -- speed, distance and vector -- and feeds the data to the missile's automatic pilot. The missile is fired, achieves its optimum depth and switches on its engines. The missile does not have a homing warhead and follows a computer-generated program.

On 05 April 2000 the Russian Federal Security Service [FSB] in Moscow arrested an American businessman, Edmond Pope, and a Russian accomplice, on charges of stealing scientific secrets. A FSB statement said it confiscated "technical drawings of various equipment, recordings of his conversations with Russian citizens relating to their work in the Russian defense industry, and receipts for American dollars received by them." Pope, a retired US Navy captain who spent much of his career working in naval intelligence, was at the time of his arrest the head of a private security firm. On 20 April 2000 the FSB revealed that Pope had been seeking plans the Shkval underwater missile. Pope was detained during an informal contact with a Russian scientist who had participated in the Shkval's creation.

The arrest of Daniel Howard Kiely, deputy head of the Applied Research Laboratory at Pennsylvania State University, came almost simultaneously. The laboratory led by Mr. Kiely has for many years been developing torpedoes for US warships and submarines. Professor Kiely had joined Pope in Moscow to offer technical advice and determine the tasks for Pope's further activity. Kiely was interrogated as a witness. His testimony and objects confiscated during the search proved his involvement in Pope's activities. Later the 68-year-old professor was released and allowed to return to the United States.

The objective of the High-Speed Undersea Weaponry project at the US Office of Naval Research is to develop the vehicle guidance, control and maneuvering capabilities for the quick reaction weapons. High-speed weapons could offer an advantage for Anti Submarine Warfare (ASW) "close encounter" scenarios. The overall system response of a high-speed weapon for breaking off engagements with enemy submarines would be measured in seconds, rather than minutes. The High-Speed Undersea Weapons project has three tasks; Vehicle Guidance, Vehicle Control, and Test Bed Development. Vehicle Guidance deals with homing sensors, signal processing, waveform design, and autopilot commands that are used to guide (either autonomously or with external interaction) the weapon to its target. Vehicle control deals with control and maneuvering of the high-speed weapon with emphasis on stabilizing the supercavitating bubble cavity, and optimizing the flow for low drag. Technical issues include instability due to vehicle planing and tail slap, interaction between cavity with propulsion exhaust, and propulsion system transients, including startup. Test Bed Development is an ongoing effort that develops a test platform to test and evaluate S&T candidate systems such as homing systems, vehicle control, and propulsion systems.

 


42 posted on 04/02/2006 12:49:28 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: edcoil

ping!


43 posted on 04/02/2006 12:50:38 PM PDT by Steamburg (Pretenders everywhere)
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To: Flavius
Here are some comments on the other Iranian super weapon. The jury is still out:

Doubts cast about Iran's new "Invisible Missile"

44 posted on 04/02/2006 12:54:00 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: edcoil

no i think the russians devolped a simular weapon also.


45 posted on 04/02/2006 12:59:54 PM PDT by stickandpucknut
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To: G.Mason
Iran has missles that radar cannot track ... electromagnetic pulse bombs ... super dooper torpedoes ... and God olny knows what else.

You left out the super light weight Ghost Dance Brand® whole-body armor, which is also atomic, biologic, and chemical proof.

46 posted on 04/02/2006 1:07:21 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Bob

Indeed it would require a HUGE amount of power to reach such speeds underwater. No matter how big a gas "bubble" you might blow in front of the missile, something has to have some incredible horsepower to displace that much water at those speeds. The bubble only makes the skin slippery but something has to shove aside all that dense water, whether it's bubble or metal skin. Anyone who believes that a few gas bubbles can magically let something zip through dense water with little effort, well, then the laws of physics apparently don't apply to this device.


47 posted on 04/02/2006 1:11:14 PM PDT by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. Be without form. -Sun Tzu)
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To: All

video of said missle

http://www.iribnews.ir/PhotoGallery/...8404f5c8bb.wmv


48 posted on 04/02/2006 1:14:39 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Pontiac

Actually my information is none of these supercavitating torpedoes can actually TURN at all.


49 posted on 04/02/2006 1:21:09 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Sender
Indeed it would require a HUGE amount of power to reach such speeds underwater. No matter how big a gas "bubble" you might blow in front of the missile, something has to have some incredible horsepower to displace that much water at those speeds. The bubble only makes the skin slippery but something has to shove aside all that dense water, whether it's bubble or metal skin. Anyone who believes that a few gas bubbles can magically let something zip through dense water with little effort, well, then the laws of physics apparently don't apply to this device.

This device doesn't blow a bubble in front of itself. The design of the nose creates the bubble which the rest of the device passes through.

Yes, it does take a lot of power but the Russians have had such a missile for quite some time. The English name for theirs is the 'Squal'.

Russia is a leader in supercavitation technology and in 1977 fielded the Shkval (Squal) rocket torpedo, which can achieve speeds up to 200kts, or 100 meters per second (230 mph) through water. An advanced version of the Shkval is reportedly capable of 300kts speed.[70] This version reportedly was being tested on the Russian Oscar-class SSGN Kusk that sank in August 2000. The U.S., France and Germany also have supercavitating weapons research programs.
Here's the link: Advanced weapons report
50 posted on 04/02/2006 1:26:45 PM PDT by Bob
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To: BenLurkin
[Iran-Maneuver-Missile Iran on Sunday successfully test fired its fastest underwater missile in the `Holy Prophet war games' ]

"I fear that this is no joke -- the Russians may be using Iran as a catspaw to see how we counter the latest Russian technology."
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Answer:

51 posted on 04/02/2006 1:28:12 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: Concho
I do not possess a PhD in Physics, but I seriously doubt that it is possible to reach that speed under water.

I do possess knowledge that Muslim regime's are usually the world's MOST PATHOLOGICAL LIARS.

52 posted on 04/02/2006 1:30:41 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Flavius
"no missle is real"?

Did you mean that no missiles anywhere in the world are real, or did you mean that, "No, the Iranian missile is in fact real?"

Do you have a spell checker on your computer? There is a spell check on FR. Remember, clarity is a good thing.
53 posted on 04/02/2006 1:35:15 PM PDT by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: Bob

"No PhD here either but the Russians have had what's called a supercavitation missile for quite a number of years. Something about the nose design permits the entire device to pass through the 'bubble' created by it. As I understand it, they're totally unguided but have a huge amount of power to achieve their speed."

I remember reading that the US had alien spacecraft hidden in the Nevada desert. As I understand it, they're lighter then air and travel at lightspeed. Maybe our alien spacecraft can take out their "supercavitation missiles".


54 posted on 04/02/2006 1:35:26 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: Strategerist
Actually my information is none of these supercavitating torpedoes can actually TURN at all.

The pictures in Post 40 suggest that they can.

Seems like a lot of effort in developing a system that takes the Navy back to the days of cannon.

55 posted on 04/02/2006 1:40:27 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
"You left out the super light weight Ghost Dance Brand® whole-body armor, which is also atomic, biologic, and chemical proof."


Not surprising. The Iranians are importing inventing suff faster than I can count.

We're doomed, I tell ya!;)




56 posted on 04/02/2006 2:06:44 PM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: edpc

This is the Russian underwater missile torpedo technology, as reported elsewhere. Runs fairly straight and true, but is unguided. Range is about 15,000 yards I believe, and yes, at about 220 miles per hour underwater.


57 posted on 04/02/2006 2:10:56 PM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: Yorlik803

What about the Russians???


58 posted on 04/02/2006 2:17:30 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Flavius

The Mullahs won't rest until the're swallowed whole by the American "Hut", i.e., the American whale!


59 posted on 04/02/2006 2:19:21 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

How about Phasers and Photon Torpedoes?


60 posted on 04/02/2006 2:21:26 PM PDT by Thunder90
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