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Posted on 04/02/2006 10:05:03 AM PDT by Cacique
The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages. Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own political and linguistic enclaves—from Los Angeles to Miami—and rejecting the Anglo-Protestant values that built the American dream. The United States ignores this challenge at its peril.
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I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages violation of our laws and perpetuates illegal immigration."
-President George W. Bush
"This plan is not amnesty," the president said of his plan to match workers with jobs. "I oppose amnesty because it encourages violation of our laws."-President Bush 1/12/04
In his book (1999), GWB wrote, "the most compassionate way to deal with illegals is to stop them at the border."
Republican Lawmakers Won’t Back Bush on Immigration
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1065774/posts?page=8
These are my links from TWO years ago to show how long we've been fighting this!
Go ahead. It isn't mine. :)
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How does Babs Streisand (Malibu) come down on this?
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"" For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.
As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.
George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.""
Very interesting. Thanks for letting us know we have a New America, according to GWB's speech from 2000. The term "the Balkanization of America", is scary as blank. I can't help but wonder what Mr Fox and Bush talked about this past week.
Mexico could be a wonderful country. It has the resources to employ it's own people. I don't understand why the push isn't to make Mexico better, rather than to bring this country down. So sad and insane.
Amen Times 100.
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Good thread for any that missed it. It should really make you mad.
Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."
Huntington's notion that America is an alchemical melting pot which transmogrifies immigrants into white protestants is trailer park sophistry. This country is a hod-podge of little Italys, and China towns along with white suburbs. Immigrants have changed the culture and have been changed by American culture. It has usually not been the immigrants that has acculturated but their children who merged with American norms. We see this with the children of illegals today.
Illegal immigration has been happening since the founding of America. Mexicans have crossed our southern border without permission since we took CA and TX from them. To read Huntington one would come to the conclusion that there are no positive aspects to the influx of hispanic immigration. How can he offer solutions with out an understanding of the pressures and payoffs that have allowed illegal immigration to become preferable to legal immigration for politicians, government, employers, and voters?...and before you try to contradict that point, see if you can name a popular politician that has won on an anti-immigration platform in the last 50 years. You will be hard pressed to find a leader for this cause who has won statewide office much less been considered a national figure.
The difference today is Government now has the ability to monitor all the US workers. Some people think that's a good idea. I don't. What has remained the same, is natural human distrust of people who are different, rather than trust in human culture that all of God's creations share. Love of God, family, and home. Nationalism comes later.
For me Huntington's article was more of what I've previously read and dismissed. His incomplete research is biased, and his conclusions are flawed.
That is a legitimate argument. "I'm wrong." I have been wrong before, and will no doubt be wrong in the future, but you have neglected to point out one area where I am wrong. If you can come up with some, and persuade me I am wrong, perhaps I could be a highly spirited and well-intended absolute air-head for your side...and thank you for the compliment.
our hard-working honest Chinese immigrants have not become a welfare burden and their neighborhoods are not rife with the outrageous crime rate of the barrios.
Of course, I never said they were. I have said that the same arguments that are used against illegal Mexicans were used on Chinese immigrants in 1880. I did not say the stone-throwers were correct.
In fact, I don't think the argument that illegals drain the welfare system makes any sense. They can't collect on the government's biggest ponzi-scheme SS, and they are afraid to access services in many areas for fear of deportation.
The argument that illegals cause crime is a common misunderstanding of effect for cause. The very act of crossing the border illegally spawns document fraud and other crimes to cover up. If an illegal has no chance to enter America legally, and little chance at survival in Mexico, these crimes are understandable if not pardonable. Crime goes where it can, like in the Chinatowns strewn throughout America. You will find a higher percentage of illegal immigrants from Asia and higher membership in the notorious Chinese mafia, but this is not Chinese culture. You don't need immigration to fuel crime. You can find crime homegrown in the "Pimpin' ain't easy" gangsta-rap of our black inner-cities. It could be argued this is American culture.
The main cause of illegal immigration is a labor vacuum. We are not producing enough workers to fill demand. If we only strengthened the border, the vacuum will develop better ways to infiltrate our border. These weakness will then be exploited by criminals and terrorists. A small increase in high profile DOJ indictment against big companies might induce smaller companies to terminate the employment of known illegals. This could cause a mass exodus of hard working long term employees, but is much less likely to deter criminals, terrorists, or welfare cheats.
I think a guest-worker program that identifies hard working illegals will free up resources to kick out the criminals and welfare leeches. I am not in support of letting criminals cross our border freely. I don't see crime as a condemnation of the people who came and work and live free in this wonderful nation.
Awsome post! I am hispanic, born and raised in New Mexico, and what you have said is on the money. Mexico never controled the Southwest. The Spanish families of New Mexico were left to fend for themselves after Mexico defeated Spain. The fact that Mexico did nothing to stop the Comanche, Navajo, and Apache raids has never been forgotten.
There is also a deep resentment against Mexicans legal and illegal in the hispanic community, especially in Northern New Mexico. Some might even call it racism, but it all goes back to Mexico's failure to fulfill it's obligation to defend it's citizens. The U.S. filled this void, and earned the alligence of these families, who in turn have passed this on to their children.
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