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THE HISPANIC CHALLENGE TO AMERICA (S. Huntington)-REPOST-(Very Long Good and Required)
Foreign Affairs ^ | March 2004 | Samuel Huntington

Posted on 04/02/2006 10:05:03 AM PDT by Cacique

The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages. Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own political and linguistic enclaves—from Los Angeles to Miami—and rejecting the Anglo-Protestant values that built the American dream. The United States ignores this challenge at its peril.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; assimilation; illegalimmgrants; immigration; samuelhuntington
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To: Smocker
What would you think of people with dual citizenship? Wouldn't that also mean an individual has loyalties to a country other than the US?

Well, I have dual citizenship so I can answer that question first hand. I was born in Japan to American parents, but have allegiance to no country other than the United States. If someone wants to enter America to make money and retain their citizenship with their mother country, that is fine with me. Do it legally. If others find their country and/or culture is failing them, want to come to America to better themselves and become United States citizens, then they should do so legally, adopt our culture and pledge allegiance to the United States.

I can't speak for others, but General John Abizaid comes to mind. Who would know that he is Lebanese and speaks fluent Arab. Does anyone think he has loyalties other than to the United States?

 

21 posted on 04/02/2006 10:45:48 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: Smocker

Yes it does, and I would kick his butt out.


22 posted on 04/02/2006 10:48:22 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: raybbr
For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

Is this the new America in mind?


23 posted on 04/02/2006 10:50:53 AM PDT by Das Outsider (True optimism is understanding that God will be on his throne even if society collapses.)
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To: Travis McGee

There's plenty of empty roadless desert land, which is exactly as they would have left it if their fairy tale of past inhabitation of the Southwest was true. I say the Feds should offer 20 acres of empty desert BLM land and if they make a go of it in 5 years, after at least one member of their family does a stint in the military they can apply for citizenship.


24 posted on 04/02/2006 10:53:13 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
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To: Travis McGee
Matt, the whole business of the Spanish conquering the Aztecs in the first place is merely the story of one semi-despotic empire replacing a far more despotic one. Everyone points to Cortez's horses, guns, and even disease, but as we show in "Patriot's History of the United States," he had only 80 horse, perhaps 100 musketeers and crossbowmen, and the smallpox epidemics had ravaged Tenochtitlan a full year before Cortez returned to win his final victory---and besides, I don't think smallpox knew who was an Aztec and who was a Spaniard. It spread more among the Indians because of their tendency to sleep a dozen or so in a room.

What really tipped the scales in Cortez's favor, of course---obviously besides the "western way of war"---was the fact that he had 25,000 Indian allies who blocked off the escape routes, and forced the Aztecs to fight him in the narrow streets where their numbers were meaningless.

25 posted on 04/02/2006 11:00:35 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: bellas_sister

bump for later


26 posted on 04/02/2006 11:01:03 AM PDT by bellas_sister (www.bracketfish.org)
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To: Tony Snow; Das Outsider
The Aztlan movement--as much as I am reluctant to draw the comparison--does depend on race myths similar in form to those of Adolf Hitler and his ilk.

Bingo. Instead of the "Norse-Aryan Volk" myth, they have the "new bronze race" myth, supposedly born of that love-fest between the brown-skinned Spaniards, and the brown-skinned Indians.

They even have a "Mein Kampf," which is called "El Plan de Aztlan," full of racial and socialist mumbo jumbo. Their "nationalism" is racial identity.

And this Plan de Aztlan is no trivial matter. It's the "constitution" of MEChA, for example. MEChA is the student group dedicated to carrying out the "Plan de Aztlan." The A in MEChA is for Aztlan.

Why does this matter? Because there are active MEChA chapters on every college and high school campus in the Southwest peddling this twaddle as fact.

Today, after 20 years of this propaganda, MEChistas are judges, lawyers, politicians, and so on, in positions of real power to influence events.

How important are these grown-up MEChistas?

Here's one notable MEChista:

"Mayor MEChA:"

Read about how a pro-communist, ultra radical "MEChista" named Tony Villar cut his hair, changed his name, put on a tie, and became the mayor of America's second largest city.

It should also be mentioned that the official logo of MEChA is an eagle, holding a blood-dripping Aztec head-chopper in one talon, and a lit dynamite bomb in the other.

And the founder of the UCLA chapter of MEChA, is now the mayor of LA, so this is no "fringe" element.

Montebello High Scool, LA, March 27, 2006. That is the tall flagpole over the entire school. People who understand the MEChA movement are not at all shocked by these scenes. We've seen it coming for years, and this is only the beginning of what is to come.


27 posted on 04/02/2006 11:01:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: raybbr
You are forgetting that Bush has in-laws that are Mexican. That is his experience. Also, he has a nephew that is being preend to be the successor to the Bush political dynasty and since he is half Mexican legalizing all those illegals would practically guarantee his election at some future point.

The elites in this country are completely and totally detached from reality, all they know is what they imagine.

I was once in Harlem with a very wealthy blueblood friend of mine (married to a Dupont) and he made the comment that every time he visited Harlem he felt he knew how black people lived and experienced things. I simply turned to him and told him "You're just a tourist, you haven't got a clue". That is I am afraid how all elites are when it comes to the rest of the societies they live in. We have our world and they live in theirs.



28 posted on 04/02/2006 11:02:51 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: satchmodog9
it is the failure to assimilate that needs to be cured.

Exactly!

My great-grandmother legally immigrated from eastern Europe. She washed bank floors in Pittsburgh. She was Slovak speaking. My grandmother would not speak a word of Slovak no matter how hard us grand kids pestered her. She considered herself American. She spoke English only.

My wife's dad was a legal immigrant from Portugal. Her dad learned and spoke English only even at home.

English is the language that unites us. English is the language that America was founded upon.

This multi cultural BS that the liberal idiots have foisted on us is what will destroy our nation.

But then as we see more and more brainwashed zombies think we need some one world Utopian government. I think their goal is to destroy this nation.

29 posted on 04/02/2006 11:05:32 AM PDT by A message
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To: satchmodog9


The battle between Mexican Americans and illegals who think America is their land isn't going to end soon.
30 posted on 04/02/2006 11:06:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Travis McGee
We've seen it coming for years, and this is only the beginning of what is to come.

I was just saying that yesterday with regard to the attacks in L.A. several years ago. The media, as they are understandably limited, treats these recent tensions over immigration as if they arose out of a vacuum. I don't think we'll hear about MEChA in the MSM anytime soon.

What's the deal with Tony Snow, anyway? I must have missed a lot last week.
31 posted on 04/02/2006 11:12:53 AM PDT by Das Outsider (True optimism is understanding that God will be on his throne even if society collapses.)
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To: wardaddy

"I would defend the Cubans and South Americans and Nicaraguans who fled the Sandies. "

Yeah. There's a world of difference between Elian Gonzales' mother giving her life to release her son from demonic Communist oppression and a Mexican breaking into our country for money.

There's something wrong when the former got sent back to the gulag and the latter is allowed to step on our laws, sovereignty and Constitution.

Culture. language, borders. Let's keep 'em.


32 posted on 04/02/2006 11:13:18 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: Cacique
Thanks for the re-post. Excellent read so far!
33 posted on 04/02/2006 11:13:44 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Das Outsider
"What's the deal with Tony Snow, anyway? I must have missed a lot last week."

I like Tony, but sometimes those rose colored glasses of his, hamper his ability to see clearly.

34 posted on 04/02/2006 11:24:20 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (President Bush's second term is undoing all the good he accomplished in his first term!)
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To: B4Ranch

Problem is most people look at you like you are insane when you try to tell them about La Raza or MECHa


35 posted on 04/02/2006 11:30:48 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: TAdams8591
I like Tony, but sometimes those rose colored glasses of his, hamper his ability to see clearly.

I've been turned off by his adherence to the godless power of positive thinking. Whatever it was that he did to get Freepers upset happened recently .
36 posted on 04/02/2006 11:35:17 AM PDT by Das Outsider (True optimism is understanding that God will be on his throne even if society collapses.)
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To: Cacique
Everyone who wants to immigrate into the U.S. should be legally required to prove they are fluent in written and spoken English first.
37 posted on 04/02/2006 11:39:48 AM PDT by Giant Conservative
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To: satchmodog9

Print out some URLs with the titles about LaRaza and give it to them. Say, "Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me."


38 posted on 04/02/2006 11:41:10 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: satchmodog9
"Problem is most people look at you like you are insane when you try to tell them about La Raza or MECHa"

I KNOW that's true. It's that way when you attempt to educate people about many leftist groups and their radical agendas.

39 posted on 04/02/2006 11:41:14 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (President Bush's second term is undoing all the good he accomplished in his first term!)
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To: A message
English is the language that unites us. English is the language that America was founded upon. This multi cultural BS that the liberal idiots have foisted on us is what will destroy our nation.

Agreed.

40 posted on 04/02/2006 11:42:10 AM PDT by Giant Conservative
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