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This really does demonstrate the mindset of invasion rather than immigration, as this plan by illegals to overthrow the US government demonstrates: Reconquista Armando Navarro 'Ethnic Studies' Professor at the University of California, Riverside Anti-American Fifth-Columnist Menace.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, what this means (the pro-immigration bill) is a transfer of power, it means control, and it is the young people, the people who are now moving to develop an agenda for the twenty first century they are going to be in a position to really make the promise of what the Chicano movement was all about in terms of self-determination, in terms of empowerment, even in the terms of an Aztlan...."


1 posted on 04/02/2006 6:07:42 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Michelle Malkin makes it clear that immigrants from Mexico wish to get their foot in the door through politics ("Reconquista," PostOpinion, March 29). Defying the rules of our nation means nothing to them as long as political correctness is their trump card. What Gen. Santa Ana failed to do in 1836 at the Alamo, which cost many American lives, this horde wishes to do without firing a shot. Bloomfield

Technically they wern't American citizens at the Alamo. People living in Texas didn't become American citizens until the mid 1840's, but what the hey michelle malkin needs such historical revisionism to pump up her hyperbole.

2 posted on 04/02/2006 6:12:39 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Liz

Why would anyone respect our borders when out politicians respect neither the law or the citizens of this country.


3 posted on 04/02/2006 6:12:58 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Liz

Rome burns while our lawmakers pimp for employers.


4 posted on 04/02/2006 6:14:17 AM PDT by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Liz
What Gen. Santa Ana failed to do in 1836 at the Alamo

Someone's been sleeping through History class again... What's even more irritating is it's the Alamo, always the Alamo, and nothing else happened in the Republic of Texas but the Alamo.

9 posted on 04/02/2006 6:20:36 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Liz
So few Mexicans answered the call for colonization that the government felt forced to offer the same deal to Americans, who answered the call in droves. The Mexicans had their chance, and they turned it down. And now they want the land back after we have settled and developed it.

Egads, was there anyone awake during History class?!? Excuse me, but we kicked their sorry rears outta here during the Battle of San Jacinto, April 21, 1836. Unfortunately, they're still sneaking back in.

11 posted on 04/02/2006 6:25:01 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Liz
It is the Aztlan-spouting extremists who need to read history. For most of history, there were hardly any Mexicans living in what is today the American Southwest. After the Mexicans won their independence from Spain, the area was so devoid of Mexicans that the newly-minted Mexican government felt forced to offer financial incentives to goad its citizens to move there. So few Mexicans answered the call for colonization that the government felt forced to offer the same deal to Americans, who answered the call in droves. The Mexicans had their chance, and they turned it down. And now they want the land back after we have settled and developed it.

Is there really any doubt that our nation's fate is the same as Israel's? The parallels to Israeli history are staggering. Mexicans are our Palestinians.

13 posted on 04/02/2006 6:29:24 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Since all politicians understand is money, I donate ONLY to those who oppose illegal immigration)
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To: Liz

So they only want the areas with a nice warm climate? They don't want the northeastern states where it is cold most of the time.... Oh, maybe they want the south now, and the rest later?????


17 posted on 04/02/2006 6:40:18 AM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: Liz

What would happen if Aztlan comes to pass?

Would the SW remain a prosperous area supporting the rest of Aztlan?

Or would it turn in to just another part of strife ridden old Mexico?

Jeeze, such difficult questions.


20 posted on 04/02/2006 6:55:39 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They don't even like each other.)
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To: Liz
It is the Aztlan-spouting extremists who need to read history. For most of history, there were hardly any Mexicans living in what is today the American Southwest.

Thank you.

I've been telling folks around here (east of Houston) that the local indigenous people were the Karankawa Indians and they're extinct.

Europeans lived here before anyone of Aztec descent did.

28 posted on 04/02/2006 7:30:11 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: All

Final Results (Registered FReepers only)
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Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Do you support or oppose H.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005?

FReeper Member Opinion

Support 83.6% 1,499
Support = Enforcement of existing immigation laws.

Oppose 16.4% 295
Oppose = Reward illegal "guest workers" with a "path" to citizenship.

100.0% 1,794

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"when" the "time was right".

NOW the The "Politically Correct RINO's" on FR
want YOU to actually support the "plan" to reward illegal "guest workers"
with a "path" to citizenship.

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33 posted on 04/02/2006 7:59:47 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (How could an illegal be a "guest" of anything? What part of criminal don't RINO's understand?)
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To: Liz
..I wonder if this is what the 1850s felt like...

..the unintended consequences of these mass demonstrations is that what was perceived by lazy American citizens and demagogic politicians as merely an economic refugee issue--the mask has come off, revealing the Reconquista \ Atzlan movement --which is political.

Having grown up in So.Cal, I remember La Raza Unida, MECha and other groups 30+ years ago. It is now clear that social justice and ethnic pride is not what their goals are.

Stealth amnesty and race politics can no longer be countenanced. Practical but firm application of security at all points of entry and true penalties for internal offenders in the business world will slowly begin to turn the ship the other direction--a failure to do so now will ensure catastrophe which hijacked airliners could never do...

34 posted on 04/02/2006 8:09:32 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Liz
Statement: "BORDERLINE BIGOTRY: DEFENDING OUR LAND (defying the rules of our nation means nothing to illegals)"

Response: Why should it mean anything to illegals. The laws mean nothing to the "leadership" and apparently nothing to the public at large. We seem to be locked into the ultimate fate of a people: i.e. great concern with eating, drinking, copulating, evacuating the bowels and snoring. With an occasional side glance at "The Games!"

38 posted on 04/02/2006 9:14:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Liz

The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding this subject is staggering, chief among them the "Aztlan" fairy tales. What's the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The "conquistadores" (that means "conquerers" did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico searching for "cities of gold," and one of his first actions on meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest--not nicely! It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners today!

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current US Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of independent but strife-torn Mexico. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south.

For example, Comanches ran rampant in the 1830s in this new power vacuum, burning scores of major ranches that had been around for a hundred years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal citizens in these regions. Nor could it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living.

Meanwhile, a growing America was making great inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these states subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal control over the Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards until the arrival of the Americans. Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years.

And now, we are supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some "historical claim" of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

No current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!

They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.


45 posted on 04/02/2006 11:18:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Liz

51 posted on 04/02/2006 1:58:11 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Liz
They are really not to blame...look to Washington DC if you are looking for answers..

They are being encouraged at every step to be lawless and we are not allowed to fight back...our own government has 'we the people's' hands tied behind our backs...

The PTB will NEVER allow complete re-conquista...what is going to happen is...Canada USA Mexico will become one nation state sharing one function at a time until Americans are so used to the idea that eventually there will be no more America..

This is one stated CFR agenda and inline with the other globalist's.

Filling the nation up with those who care nothing at all for our history or our freedom or our Founding Fathers who also are allowed vote will be the first step...

They will vote for those who fill their bellies and their pocket books and since they will gain from such a laison they will be all for it..as will the other massive amount of foreigners allowed to become citizens without screening

The blue bloods of all nations are citizens of the world with loyalties to non other than each other's interests, pleasure, and lining their own pockets..when 'they' have passionate concerns for the welfare of the poor and downtrodden...look out!...hold onto your wallet and lock up your children.. the cries for help they answer and demand you also answer.. are like dinner bells for these vampires

imo

53 posted on 04/02/2006 2:32:04 PM PDT by joesnuffy (This 'Guest Worker Program' Is To Border Security as 'Campaign Finance Reform' Is To Free Speech)
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To: Liz
The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


59 posted on 04/02/2006 9:24:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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