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BORDERLINE BIGOTRY: DEFENDING OUR LAND (defying the rules of our nation means nothing to illegals)
NY POST ^ | 4/2/06 | EDITORIALS

Posted on 04/02/2006 6:07:40 AM PDT by Liz

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To: jla
You know what is interesting about the list of heroes who died at the Alamo. Some came from foreign countries and according to some on FR would be considered "invaders" today.

Afterall, back then all one had to do was walk off the boat.

Ellis Island didn't being operation until 1892 and the Alamo happened in 1836.

41 posted on 04/02/2006 9:30:43 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane; hedgetrimmer; jla
Afterall, back then all one had to do was walk off the boat.

I wouldn't really mind it now if there wasn't the helping handout for the illegals at the expense of my ability to raise capital and create value. That is to say, special privileges for illegals paid for by gov't who extracted money from my earnings and charged me for my own property at the point of a gun, possible only because I'm a law-abiding natural born citizen. This hinders me in transforming the value I create for others into wealth for myself.

Of course there are other issues, like power-hungry politicians seeking to grow a voter base on people who benefit from illegals or who are illegal immigrants. Or people in business who have already given into the inevitable and hire illegals to remain competitive, because gov't won't enforce the laws fairly.

So much of the ire on the subject is founded on what I like to think of as people's gut feeling that illegal immigration is an issue which will lead to a decline of civilization. If a person feels like there is no stopping it, then the sensible course of action is of course is to give into the inevitable, and try and cope. Of course coping depends on the perception of what the form of the inevitable will be. A rational person has only to look south of the border to divine the end game....

42 posted on 04/02/2006 10:40:41 AM PDT by no-s
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To: no-s
"A rational person has only to look south of the border to divine the end game...."

Knocked that one out of the park!
43 posted on 04/02/2006 11:00:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Dane
Afterall, back then all one had to do was walk off the boat.

First they needed to be granted a charter from King George. Then they had to buy shares in the company. Then they had to make the very long journey. Then they had to build their own houses, churches and stores. Then they had to grow and hunt their own food. Then they had to form their own government.

No social services, free education, subsidized housing, healthcare and jobs for these folk. No siree bob.
44 posted on 04/02/2006 11:18:34 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Liz

The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding this subject is staggering, chief among them the "Aztlan" fairy tales. What's the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The "conquistadores" (that means "conquerers" did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico searching for "cities of gold," and one of his first actions on meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest--not nicely! It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners today!

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current US Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of independent but strife-torn Mexico. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south.

For example, Comanches ran rampant in the 1830s in this new power vacuum, burning scores of major ranches that had been around for a hundred years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal citizens in these regions. Nor could it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living.

Meanwhile, a growing America was making great inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these states subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal control over the Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards until the arrival of the Americans. Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years.

And now, we are supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some "historical claim" of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

No current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!

They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.


45 posted on 04/02/2006 11:18:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mojave
The Quisling traitors are drawn to these threads, aren't they? And "somehow," they are ALWAYS on the side of the invaders.

QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.


46 posted on 04/02/2006 11:20:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Dane
Technically they wern't American citizens at the Alamo

Wrong again!

Of the 182 who were killed or murdered at the Alamo, the overwhelming number of them were, in fact, American citizens.

Davey Crockett, who was murdered by the Mexican, Santa Ana, was an American citizen, as were all his volunteers.

William Travis, was a lawyer and light-colonel from South Carolina.

As an aside, what's your problem with Michelle Malkin?
47 posted on 04/02/2006 11:43:11 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Beckwith

Jim Bowie.


48 posted on 04/02/2006 11:54:33 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Dane
You must not have too many mexicans in your area. It's a good bet that your junior highschool daughter was never cut by some half-civilized cholo bitch with a knife and an attitude. Mine was. I don't like illegals, go figure.

Here, the place swarms with foreigners who were never invited, never asked permission, just invaded my country. Here, the jails are packed with the ones who didn't care to work "the jobs that Americans won't do."

49 posted on 04/02/2006 12:08:34 PM PDT by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: Max in Utah
It's a good bet that your junior highschool daughter was never cut by some half-civilized cholo bitch with a knife and an attitude.

We're just acceptable collateral damage in the effort to bring about a borderless new world order.

50 posted on 04/02/2006 1:44:36 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Liz

51 posted on 04/02/2006 1:58:11 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: xcamel; cb; stopem; Freedom4US; Mojave; AEMILIUS PAULUS; CPOSharky; raybbr; proudmilitarymrs; ...
FREEPER ACTIVISM: If employers who are officers of publicly-held companies are breaking the law, using company assets illegally by employing illegal aliens, they are jeopardizing the investments of partners and shareholders. The SEC would want to know about it. Contact: enforcement@SEC.gov

Another way is to inform companies who hire illegal aliens that you will not invest in companies that break the law.

Also check your mutual funds to see if they are invested in companies that employ illegals. Notify your mutual fund you do not want your money invested with companies that break the law.

52 posted on 04/02/2006 1:59:33 PM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Liz
They are really not to blame...look to Washington DC if you are looking for answers..

They are being encouraged at every step to be lawless and we are not allowed to fight back...our own government has 'we the people's' hands tied behind our backs...

The PTB will NEVER allow complete re-conquista...what is going to happen is...Canada USA Mexico will become one nation state sharing one function at a time until Americans are so used to the idea that eventually there will be no more America..

This is one stated CFR agenda and inline with the other globalist's.

Filling the nation up with those who care nothing at all for our history or our freedom or our Founding Fathers who also are allowed vote will be the first step...

They will vote for those who fill their bellies and their pocket books and since they will gain from such a laison they will be all for it..as will the other massive amount of foreigners allowed to become citizens without screening

The blue bloods of all nations are citizens of the world with loyalties to non other than each other's interests, pleasure, and lining their own pockets..when 'they' have passionate concerns for the welfare of the poor and downtrodden...look out!...hold onto your wallet and lock up your children.. the cries for help they answer and demand you also answer.. are like dinner bells for these vampires

imo

53 posted on 04/02/2006 2:32:04 PM PDT by joesnuffy (This 'Guest Worker Program' Is To Border Security as 'Campaign Finance Reform' Is To Free Speech)
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To: Liz

EXCELLENT idea! Thanks


54 posted on 04/02/2006 2:32:21 PM PDT by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: devolve

Nice frame on that one!


55 posted on 04/02/2006 2:46:46 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Liz

AND they're scofflaws - they scoff at our laws AND if they get away with this, more and more of the rest of us will have less and less respect for the law.

Why should we? And what loyalty do we owe our government who apparently would rather curry favor with squatter/scofflaws at the expense, literally, of the rest of us.

AND a country without borders is not a country and if we're not a country, why do we need that bunch of trough feeders infesting our "capital"?

This is a much bigger deal than even most FReepers know - and we know quite a bit.


56 posted on 04/02/2006 2:58:56 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Yeah. Where are the cries for "diversity" when it comes to immigration?


57 posted on 04/02/2006 3:47:59 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Let's Roll
FREEPER ACTIVISM---PASS THE WORD: If employers who are officers of publicly-held companies are breaking the law, using company assets illegally by employing illegal aliens, they are jeopardizing the investments of partners and shareholders. The SEC would want to know about it. Contact: enforcement@SEC.gov

Another way is to inform companies who hire illegal aliens that you will not invest in companies that break the law.

Also check your mutual funds to see if they are invested in companies that employ illegals. Notify your mutual fund you do not want your money invested with companies that break the law.

58 posted on 04/02/2006 5:13:21 PM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Liz
The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


59 posted on 04/02/2006 9:24:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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