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FrontPageMagazine ^ | 3-28-06 | By Lowell Ponte

Posted on 04/01/2006 5:00:12 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT

Europe's botched civilization, perverted by socialism and lost faith, seems to have lost the will, the passion to sustain itself. If it continues to practice today's multiculturalist leftism, Europe's demographic doom will be sealed. Some harbingers:

In Brussels, Belgium, the most popular name for baby boys is now Mohammad. Sustaining the population of a nation requires that on average each couple gives birth to 2.1 children. The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to 3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe. Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into Muslim families. In France at least 12 percent of the population is already Muslim, the fruits mostly of immigrants from former French colonies in North Africa. If present birth trends continue, by 2030 a quarter of France's people will be Muslim, more than enough to determine who controls the national parliament and executive. As this columnist recently noted, the nuclear-armed French military is already 15 percent Muslim. Adjacent Switzerland is now 20 percent Muslim. The German newspaper Deutsche Welle days ago reported that Germany's birth rate in 2005 fell to a level lower than at the end of World War II, to a "historic low," more than fifty percent lower than those of France and Great Britain. But at a meeting this week in Berlin that brought together the interior ministers of six European nations, Germany's leftwing Social Democrats continued to oppose the application of any test or standard that would restrict who could migrate into Germany.

The burgeoning Muslim population within Europe is not evenly spread. It is largely concentrated in and around big cities, whose local politicians feel its pressure acutely and often bend to that pressure. In the Netherlands the cities of Amsterdam and Rotterdam nearly have Muslim majorities now.

These Islamic enclaves are already taking on the character of conquered provinces that no longer belong to the European countries around them. As FrontPage Magazine recently quoted from the new book While Europe Slept by liberal American expatriate Bruce Bawer:

In France, a public official met with an imam at the edge of Roubaix's Muslim district out of respect for his declaration of the neighborhood as Islamic territory to which she had no right of access. In Britain, imams have pressed the government to officially designate certain areas of Bradford as being under Muslim, not British, law. In Denmark, Muslim leaders have sought the same kind of control over parts of Copenhagen. And in Belgium, Muslims living in the Brussels neighborhood of Sint-Jans-Molenbeek already view it not as part of Belgium but as an area under Islamic jurisdiction in which Belgians are not welcome.


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1 posted on 04/01/2006 5:00:16 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Congressman demands
new OKC bomb probe
Rohrabacher sees foreign connection,
conspiracy beyond McVeigh, Nichols
Posted: March 31, 2006
11:15 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher
WASHINGTON – Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., is calling for a congressional investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing because of evidence of a foreign connection and a conspiracy broader than Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

In a memo written to Rep. Henry Hyde, chairman of the House International Relations Committee, Rohrabacher said he has spent 12 months personally investigating the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that killed 168 and concluded "there is ample evidence to justify an investigative hearing into this historic crime."

The focus of the probe, he suggests, should be "Was there a foreign connection to the Oklahoma City bombing?"

"The official position today, defended by the FBI and Justice Department, is that the OKC bombing, which left 168 persons dead, was planned and executed solely by two disgruntled veterans, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, with the limited involvement of Michael Fortier," writes Rohrabacher. "After my inquiry I have concluded that others were involved and that information about the bombing is being kept from the public and from the Congress. The jurisdiction of my Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations extends only to the possible international and foreign involvement in the crime. Even within that framework there is ample evidence to justify an investigative hearing."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49535


2 posted on 04/01/2006 5:03:36 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is
an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently
published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of
alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under
unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which
she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon
Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic
war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic
war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States
would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for
war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist
domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of
Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free
elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United
States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in
progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is
rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with
its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders
believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by
Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as
they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for
socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum.
Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or
organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments,
editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of
artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to
"eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute
shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to
promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them
"censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting
pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures,
radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal,
natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social"
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the
schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of
church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate,
old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to
cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish
aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching
of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the
"big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the
Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over
any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs,
mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation
of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social
agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which
no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as
a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose
Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and
easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative
influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding
of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are
legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and
special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to
solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are
ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot
prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic
problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and
individuals alike.


3 posted on 04/01/2006 5:05:29 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with
statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev.
Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote
Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting
Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-
Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them
as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the
same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in
colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and
mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically
another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same
monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about
favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers
by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the
Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a
controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of
America – black gold. America's economy depends on oil and 41 percent
of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime,
Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran''
anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public
arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with
Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of
Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local
school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the
medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice
how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need
them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry.
Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect
planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:


Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is
automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000
annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one
can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in
America.

Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants
(so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only
a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on
American soil.
10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American
educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be
sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy.
There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which
teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of
2002, Saudi Arabia's Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of
the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools – free
of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and
universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies''
with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education
institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars,
local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in
truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans
for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are
portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the
intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize
Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels,
water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding
Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to
support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting
freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic
student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by
Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the
faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken
individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by
hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting
their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and
ethic groups in America.

Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled
in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV
documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth
printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is
abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

''The True Furqan'' is also available for viewing on Islam-
Exposed.org. Shorrosh's new website is Focusing-on-Islam.com.

FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33898


4 posted on 04/01/2006 5:09:45 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Americans Must Maintain Resolve to Win Long War, General Says
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service


WASHINGTON, March 20, 2006 – Extremists cannot hope to match the United States and its coalition allies in battle, but that might not matter at all. Al Qaeda and like terrorist groups understand that they only have to win the battle for American resolve to be successful, a top military strategy official said.
Americans are an impatient people, and that impatience will work against final victory in what many people are now calling "the Long War," Army Brig. Gen. Robert L. Caslen Jr. , the Joint Staff's director of strategy for the global war on terrorism, said in an interview.

The Long War is more than just the battle in Iraq or Afghanistan, and calling the struggle the Long War does not mean that U. S. troops will be in those nations for a long time. Rather, is the term refers to the overall struggle against the ideology of extremism, the general explained.

Defeating an ideology is tough and will require time and resources to win, Caslen said. Defeating the appeal of fascism took almost 25 years. The appeal of this "ism" began soon after World War I ended and was not defeated until the Allies defeated the Nazis in 1945. Defeating the ideology of communism took most of the 20th century and the long-term resolve of the Cold War.

The United States has proven it can maintain this resolve. The Cold War against an expansionist Soviet Union began soon after World War II ended and ran through the implosion of the nation in 1991. The temperature of the Cold War heated and cooled through the era -- hotter in Korea, Berlin and Vietnam -- but the core of the struggle remained, and it was the grandchildren of those who began the struggle who reaped its benefits.

It will be the same with extremism and terrorism, Caslen said. Americans must retain that resolve and commitment as the war on terrorism continues, he said.

The terrorists have a battle plan, just as Adolph Hitler did. And like Hitler did in "Mein Kampf," al Qaeda and affiliated groups have published their strategic goals, Caslen said.

Their first goal is to drive America from Iraq and establish Islamic authority in the country. This would give the extremists a base to operate from and would help in their second goal, which is to go after and defeat all neighboring "apostate" states -- Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Turkey, Syria, Iran and Jordan. These countries, terrorist groups have claimed, have abandoned Islamic ideals.

The third step is to destroy Israel. The fourth step would be to establish a Caliphate -- a government under a supreme religious ruler -- stretching from Central Asia to the Atlantic.

"Could it happen?" Caslen asked. "Yes. If we lose our resolve. "

Studies have shown that it takes on average nine years to successfully put down an insurrection, the general said. Studies have also shown that the American peoples' support begins to wane after about three years, he said. Through American history the three-year mark seems to be important.


In 1864, after three years of battles and lengthening casualty lists in the U. S. Civil War, a large peace group blossomed throughout the North.
After three years of war in the 1950s, the United States pushed for an armistice to end fighting on the Korean Peninsula.
In 1968, three years after the first major U. S. combat units landed near Da Nang, South Vietnam, the peace movement in the United States significantly matured.
"So if it takes nine years to overcome an insurrection but the American people only have three years of patience, that leaves you a six-year gap," Caslen said.

Convincing Americans to maintain their resolve becomes a strategic necessity. "Americans would be much more patient with this struggle if they understood what the implications are," Caslen said.

Caslen wondered aloud what the effect on the West would be if extremists were to be successful in their goals. "How would life change? Could free and democratic societies survive? Even if they could, life would be completely different," he said.

Countries would have to curtail freedoms, Caslen said, because if such enemies got weapons of mass destruction they would threaten much of the world. "Osama bin Laden said that it is the religious duty of all Muslims to acquire weapons of mass destruction and use them against the 'infidel,'" Caslen said. "If (bin Laden) had the chance to use asymmetric threats and kill 3 million people instead of 3,000 (on Sept. 11, 2001,) he would have. "

A war of ideas exists within Islam between the small numbers of extremists and the vast moderate majority, Caslen said. American strategy, therefore, needs to concentrate on defeating not only extremists in arms, but stopping people from joining extremist organizations.

U. S. strategy has to be aimed at improving conditions around the world so the percentage of those who believe in such extremism shrinks. "Even if just one percent of Muslims worldwide believe in the extremist, terrorist interpretation of Islam, that's 12 million people," Caslen said.




Biography:
Brig. Gen. Robert L. Caslen Jr. , USA

News Archive



NOTE: View the original version of this web page on DefenseLINK, the official website of the U. S. Department of Defense.


5 posted on 04/01/2006 5:12:14 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Tlatelolco Massacre - The Secret
Archives:
Courtesy of the U.S. National
Security Archive

Document 1
3/28/68
CIA Special National Intelligence Estimate
Security Conditions in Mexico
Secret
In preparation for a visit to Mexico City by Vice
President Hubert Humphrey, the CIA issues a
special assessment of security conditions in
Mexico. Written several months before the first
serious wave of student demonstrations began,
the document describes the country as a model of
stability, with President Diaz Ordaz firmly in
control and a ruling party which “virtually
monopolizes Mexican politics.”

Document 2
7/19/68
CIA Weekly Summary
Student Unrest Troubles Mexico
Secret
When students launch a series of country-wide
protests in July, initial U.S. reporting out of Mexico
alerts Washington to several issues that come up
again and again in subsequent documents: the
potential danger posed by the strikes to the
Olympic Games, their political significance, and
the role of the “international” left. This CIA
analysis discusses Cuban influence on a student
strike at the University of Veracruz. Demonstrators
seek to disrupt the Olympic games, although the
PRI electoral fraud in local and gubernatorial
elections also may serve as cause for further
unrest.

Document 3
7/31/68
White House memorandum
Student Disturbances in Mexico City (7/30/68 U.S.
Embassy cable attached, untitled)
Secret, Bowdler to LBJ
Mexican authorities claim to have "solid
evidence" that the Mexican Communist Party,
with Soviet complicity, engineered the July 26 riot.
The U.S. Embassy does not have corroborating
evidence, but suggests that Moscow may have
ordered riot to counteract impact of events in the
Czechoslovakia.

Document 4
8/2/68
CIA Weekly Summary
Students Stage Major Disorder in Mexico
Secret
The July 26 riot provides a classic example of
Communist agitation techniques. Document
questions Mexican claims of Soviet complicity,
however, as USSR does not want to undermine its
good relations with Mexico.

Document 5
c. 8/15/68
DIA Intelligence Information Report
Troops Used to Help Quell Mexico City Student Riots
Confidential
Report provides a chronological account of
Mexican military involvement in disbanding
student protests in Mexico City during the week of
July 29. While the report states that the military
performed "creditably,” it also notes some charges
of “over-reaction,” such as the alleged “hazing” of
students inside one school. The Mexican
Government denies reports that 4 students were
killed during the disturbances. Generals Mazon
and Ballasteros head a special military “Task
Force” to deal with the situation of unrest.

Document 6
8/23/68
CIA Weekly Review
Mexican Government in a Quandary Over Student Crisis
Top Secret
CIA says the Mexican Government may be
underestimating students’ ability to continue
large-scale, disciplined demonstrations. The
present impasse is due to the Government's belief
that a) giving in to students would invite further
demands and b) ignoring situation most likely will
lead to further disruption. Document claims that
Communist youths are involved in the crisis. CIA
says that further violent outbreaks can be
expected.

Document 7
8/29/68
White House message
Student Situation in Mexico (8/29/68 U.S. Embassy
cable attached, Student Situation)
Confidential, Rostow to LBJ
Rostow reports to President Johnson that the
Mexican Government's conciliatory strategy has
not quelled student disturbances, and a return to a
"get-tough, no-nonsense posture" is inevitable.
Rostow claims that while the violence is not likely
to affect Diaz Ordaz's administration, it will no
doubt affect the Olympics in a negative manner.

Document 8
8/30/68
CIA Intelligence Information Cable
Mexican Military Alert for Possible Cuban Infiltration of
Arms Destined for Student Use
[Classification excised]
CIA source claims that Cuba is prepared to
smuggle arms to students for September
demonstrations in Mexico. In response, Mexican
Navy and army troops along the coast are put on
high alert.

Document 9
9/6/68
CIA Weekly Summary
Mexican Government Stalls Student Movement
Secret
While the Mexican Government has made minor
concessions to protesting students, the approach
of the Olympics will most likely lead the Diaz
Ordaz administration to meet further
demonstrations with very tough measures.

Document 10
9/9/68
CIA Intelligence Information Cable
Situation Appraisal: Status of the Mexico City Student
Movement
[Classification excised]
Cable states that students are increasingly
organized, and able to exercise some influence on
national affairs. The Mexican Government has not
been unified in action against the protesters, and
President Diaz Ordaz continues to avoid becoming
personally involved. While no hard evidence exists
that Cubans or Soviets masterminded the student
demonstrations, the Mexican Government
continues to inspire such rumors. Cable concludes
that “the old order is passing” and the PRI has lost
control over public behavior.

Document 11
9/13/68
CIA Weekly Summary
Mexican Students Still Spar with Government
Secret
CIA refers to the Mexican Government's "behind
the scenes maneuvering to divide the students,"
including efforts by the officially-inspired
"committee of the authentic student body" to
quash future student strikes.

Document 12
9/19/68
White House message
Untitled
Confidential, Rostow to LBJ
Rostow alerts President Johnson to the military's
decision to occupy UNAM in response to the
student strike and take-over of university
buildings.

Document 13
9/24/68
DIA Intelligence Information Report
Army Intervenes on Additional Occasions in Mexico City
Student Situation
Confidential
Report states that Mexican Army troops were
again employed to disperse protesting students,
from 8/28 into the month of September. The
period marked the first known involvement of
troops from outside Mexico City, indicating the
increasing seriousness of the matter. The
September 18 occupation of UNAM also indicates
that the position of the Mexican Government is
hardening.

Document 14
9/26/68
FBI memorandum
Olympic Games, Mexico City, Mexico: October 12-27,
1968
Confidential, Sullivan to Wannall
FBI goes on alert for movement of “U.S.
subversive elements” into Mexico, which the
agency believes may try to disrupt Olympics and
participate in student uprisings.

Document 15
9/27/68
CIA Weekly Review
Violence Grows in Mexican Student Crisis
Top Secret
CIA reports “stresses” on and within the Mexican
political establishment stemming from student
unrest and the increasingly violent confrontations
between protesters and the Mexican security
forces.

Document 16
9/27/68
White House memorandum
Security Considerations in Mr. Nixon’s Planned Visit to
Mexico (9/26/68 CIA intelligence estimate attached,
with cover memo)
Secret, Rostow to LBJ
CIA expresses concerns about security conditions
in Mexico and suggests that Nixon cancel his plans
to visit Mexico during the Olympics. If he does go,
the CIA document warns, Mexican security forces
would have hard time protecting him, and
"anti-U.S. extremists" would cause "some nasty
incidents."

Document 17
c. 10/1/68
FBI letter
Olympic Games, Mexico City, Mexico - October 12-27,
1968
Confidential
Document discusses potential threats to the
Olympic games. These include individual US
citizens with histories of subversive activity and
anti-Castro Cubans, who are expected to try and
harass Cuban athletes during the games. The FBI
urges that information about potential subversives
be provided to the U.S. and Mexican
Governments.

Document 18
10/4/68
CIA Weekly Summary
A Renewed Violence in Mexico
Secret
New violence (Tlatelolco) puts Government of
Mexico’s ability to safeguard Olympics in jeopardy.
All military zone commanders have been granted
the authority to "move against disorderly
students."

Document 19
10/5/68
White House memorandum
Mexican Riots - Extent of Communist Involvement
(10/5/68 CIA memorandum and 10/5/68 FBI cable
attached)
Secret, Rostow to LBJ
CIA concludes that recent student unrest was
sparked by domestic conditions. Cuban and Soviet
involvement was limited to moral and some
financial support. The FBI reports
Communist/Trotskyist groups formed the
Olympia Brigade, a "shock group" which allegedly
initiated the shooting at Tlatelolco on 10/2.

Document 20
10/8/68
FBI cable
Olympic Games, Mexico City, Mexico, October Twelve -
Twenty Seven, Nineteen Sixty Eight
Confidential, Director FBI to LEGAT Mexico City
To protect U.S. athletes during the Olympics, the
FBI must establish a liaison in the U.S. Embassy
for channeling information to U.S. Olympic team
officials regarding safety concerns. Cable
emphasizes the necessity of concealing the FBI's
role to avoid jeopardizing ongoing FBI operations
in Mexico.

Document 21
c. 10/8/68
CIA report
Answers to Questions Raised by White House
Concerning Student Disturbances in Mexico (10/9/68
White House cover memorandum attached)
Secret, Lewis to Rostow
CIA addresses issues raised by FBI sources and
concludes a) no evidence exists of significant
foreign influence in riots, b) external influences
included moral support and some financial
support, but not the supply of weapons, and c) the
Trotskyist “Brigada Olympia” was developed with
the intentions of interfering with the Olympic
games.

Document 22
10/12/68
Department of State telegram
Untitled [Mexico Riots] (10/14/68 White House cover
memorandum attached)
Confidential
The U.S. Embassy states that, contrary to official
Mexican reports, direct foreign involvement in the
student uprisings has been "essentially negligible."
Rather, newer and more extreme student
elements are responsible for the continued unrest
and riots such as that which occurred at Tlatelolco
on 10/2. The Mexican Government has increased
military pressure with the intention of seizing the
leaders of the extremist student groups.
Document states that the foreign influence
argument has been used by the Mexican
Government to divert attention away from deep
local problems.

Document 23
10/18/68
DIA Intelligence Information Report
Army Participation in Student Situation, Mexico City
Confidential
Report provides a chronological account of the
Army's role in controlling student uprisings from
9/24 through 10/18. With regards to Tlatelolco,
report states that on 9/30, troops withdrew from
the UNAM campus, which they had occupied since
9/18. Also on 9/30, the Mexican Defense Minister
instructed military zone commanders throughout
the country to move against student disturbances
"without waiting for instructions." Report provides
a key overview of the events of 10/2 at Tlatelolco
and the days immediately following.

Document 24
10/22/68
DIA Intelligence Information Report
Mexican Army Preparations to Cope with Future Student
Disturbances in Mexico City
Confidential
Following the close of the Olympic games and the
expected return of students to classes, the
Mexican military expects a resurgence in student
protest activity. To counter possible future
violence, the military is training two special
1,500-man units, one of which carries the name
"Brigada Olympia."

Document 25
10/23/68 DIA Intelligence Information Report
Status of Brig. Gen. Jose Hernandez Toledo
Confidential
Gen. José Hernández Toledo, wounded at
Tlatelolco, is recovering at a Mexican military
hospital. A source tells the DIA that the Mexican
Army “had taken good care” of the 18 foreigners
(including some Cubans) involved in the events at
Tlatelolco. When asked to clarify, the source said
"good care" meant detention.

Document 26
11/1/68 CIA Weekly Summary
Mexican Government Readies for More Student Trouble
Secret
Although it is unclear whether students will
continue the strike, this document suggests that
the "new left" (extremists) within the student
movement seek to prolong the unrest and
continue their provocations against the Mexican
Government. Mexican officials are preparing for
future violence.

Document 27
c. 11/15/68
INR Working Draft (extract)
Student Violence and Attitudes in Latin America
Confidential
According to this draft analysis of student unrest in
Latin America, the disorders in Mexico are the
worst in the hemisphere. The continued violence
demonstrates a deep and widespread
dissatisfaction with the Government of Mexico, and
has severely damaged Mexico’s reputation as
being the "most stable and progressive country in
Latin America."

Document 28
12/6/68
CIA Weekly Summary
Mexican Student Strike Apparently Waning Secret
Document states that despite intermittent attacks
by extremist groups, the student strike in Mexico
is nearly over. In the wake of a student vote to
end the strike, class attendance is rising.

Document 29
1/17/69
CIA Weekly Summary Special Report
Challenges to Mexico’s Single-Party Rule
Secret
As students return to classes, the "authentic
context" to student strikes is becoming clear: the
demonstrations of 1968 represent a strong
warning to the Government of Mexico. Although
Mexican officials claimed "outside agitation" was
the basis of the unrest, document states that most
reports linking the student movement to
subversion remain unsubstantiated. Finally,
document states that the events at Tlatelolco
caused severe political damage to the Mexican
Government.

Document 30
c. 3/24/69
DIA Intelligence Information Report
General Officers in Disfavor with Secretary of Defense
Confidential
Generals Ballesteros Prieto and Luis Gutierrez
Oropeza are both out of favor with the Minister of
Defense because they ignored his orders to keep
troops out of Tlatelolco. According to source,
soldiers were merely supposed to surround
students and observe with the intention of
confining the demonstrators to that part of the
city.


6 posted on 04/01/2006 5:26:48 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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Link to the full article, and note the actual title ( please correct the title and the link -- current link goes to Google cache of the article, but the actual direct link is available, see below)

Goodbye Europe

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21820


7 posted on 04/01/2006 5:32:35 PM PST by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Velveeta; Domestic Church; MamaDearest; LucyT; Donna Lee Nardo; ladyinred; Godzilla; Mossad1967; ...

PING to Granny's New Thread


8 posted on 04/01/2006 5:39:47 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: FairOpinion
For some reason I could not get Goodbye Europe to come up on the real link.

There will be more than one article on this thread so the title is irrelevant. Goodbye Europe was just a lead in
9 posted on 04/01/2006 5:44:46 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Thanks, DC. Please keep me on your list. (As if I didn't have enough data coming in!)


10 posted on 04/01/2006 6:22:18 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SlowBoat407

(As if I didn't have enough data coming in!)



I know the feeling.


11 posted on 04/01/2006 6:30:08 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Cindy

U.S. Warns of Possible Terrorist Attacks in Indonesia Tomorrow
April 1 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. cautioned its citizens about possible terrorist attacks taking place in Indonesia tomorrow, following a similar warning from the Australian government yesterday.

Attacks on Western targets may occur ``any time, anywhere'' in Indonesia, the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta said in a statement on its Web site. Intelligence reports indicate Sunday April 2, 2006, could be one potential date for an attack, the statement said.

``Reports suggest attacks could include targeting individual American citizens,'' the Embassy said in the statement dated March 31. ``Recent demonstrations in Jakarta and elsewhere against U.S. Government facilities and U.S. businesses resulted in property damage, serious injuries and several deaths.''

The Embassy said Americans should avoid crowds, maintain a low profile, and be vigilant about their security at all times.

A series of terrorist attacks have occurred in Indonesia in the past four years including bombings in 2002 in Bali that killed 202 people and a second attack on the island last October killing 23 people. Indonesia blamed these on the Jemaah Islamiyah terrorist group, which is linked to al-Qaeda.

Nine people were killed in a bomb explosion outside Australia's embassy in Indonesia's capital in September 2004.

``Terrorist attacks against Westerners in Bali and Jakarta indicate these areas are a priority target for terrorists in Indonesia,'' Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said on its Web site yesterday. Australians are advised to ``reconsider your need to travel to Indonesia, including Bali.''

Indonesia last week said it identified an Indonesian national with suspected links to the al-Qaeda network as the new leader of Jemaah Islamiyah, the Australian Broadcasting Corp. reported at the time.

The new chief is Abu Dujana, who had weapons training in Afghanistan and met al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, the ABC cited Colonel Petrus Golose, deputy commander of Indonesia's anti-terrorism unit, as saying.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=a89T0gyYv55o&refer=asia


12 posted on 04/01/2006 6:37:59 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Hi DC, you forgot me. :(

I just discovered this by mistake.

bookmarking!!

Go granny go!!!


13 posted on 04/01/2006 6:45:10 PM PST by WestCoastGal (What’s your water temp right there Junebug? 260-Oh, my bad 200.The little needle was in the way Heh)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Alleged terrorist found in Newmarket
March 31, 2006 - 4:33 pm
One of the biggest terror-related arrests in Canada since September 11 reportedly occurred two weeks ago outside a Newmarket home.

40-year-old Raja Mustafa was arrested in the driveway of his home carrying a packed suitcase and a large quantity of cash.
http://www.680news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20060331_163308_972

AUSTRALIA: Terrorist Cell Disrupted
Saturday: April 1, 2006
The arrest of three men in Melbourne has significantly disrupted the activities of a terrorist group allegedly plotting an attack in Australia, police say, reports the Australian Associated Press in The Sydney Morning Herald.
http://www.pacificislands.cc/pina/pinadefault2.php?urlpinaid=21167

Public works staff prepare for possible terrorist attacks
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060401/News01/604010369/CAT=News01

Feature: Terrorist acts on the rise in Ghazni
GHAZNI CITY, Mar 31 (Pajhwok Afghan News): Majority of officials in Ghazni believed that foreign hands were involved in the recent spate of attacks in this southern province
http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&id=15834

U.N. calls on Iran to come clean on nukes
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060329-052041-9449r

Nile basin countries set up commission to resolve water dispute
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-04/02/content_4373351.htm

'I prefer groundwater to tap water'
The unrestrained use of groundwater has brought the capital and its surrounding areas to a water crisis, not to mention that it is actually making Jakarta sink. The Jakarta Post asked people in the city why they do not just use tap water.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailcity.asp?fileid=20060401.G05&irec=4

EPA May Weaken Rule on Water Quality
Plan Would Affect Towns That Find Complying Costly
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101629.html

Foreign Minister says Iran will stick to nuclear path
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6534

Attacking Iran May Trigger Terrorism
U.S. Experts Wary of Military Action Over Nuclear Program
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/01/AR2006040100981.html



14 posted on 04/01/2006 6:55:25 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: WestCoastGal

I didn't forget you are on Granny's ping list. She hasn't pinged anyone yet. I would never forget you:)

On the ohter thread we have been working on one of your post.


15 posted on 04/01/2006 6:58:01 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; LucyT; WestCoastGal; Cindy

Hole discovered drilled into pipe at Miami-Dade nuclear reactor
Associated Press
FLORIDA CITY, Fla. - Officials conducting a routine inspection of a nuclear reactor at the Turkey Point power plant found a small holed drilled into a pipe that helps maintain pressure, and investigators were trying to determine if the hole was drilled accidentally or deliberately, Florida Power & Light officials said Saturday.

The nuclear reactor, one of two at the Miami-Dade County power plant, had been shut down for a routine refueling, FPL spokeswoman Rachel Scott said.

The 1/8-inch hole was discovered late Thursday during a series of tests and inspections performed before bringing the unit back online, Scott said.

Other maintenance work had been performed in the area where the hole was found, Scott said.

FPL, the state's largest electric utility, repaired the damaged piping and, though the company's investigation continues, plans to bring the unit back into service in about a week, she said.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission and FBI are also conducting their own investigations.

"We want to make sure that we do a very thorough investigation and that we evaluate all possibilities," Scott said.

FPL customers were not affected by the routine shutdown, Scott said. The power plant's second nuclear unit as well as two units powered by oil and natural gas were fully operational, and the plant was in no danger, she said.

Florida City is about 30 miles southwest of Miami.

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/business/14242107.htm


16 posted on 04/01/2006 7:00:49 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; struwwelpeter; Velveeta
This needs to be watched very closely..

Apr 01 23:02

Russia, Islamic world dialog expected to form strategic alliance

by Erafzon S.A.S.


Moscow (ANTARA News) - Russia, formerly part of the dissolved superpower Soviet Union, has drawn international attention by hosting a dialog on "Strategic Vision, Russia - The Islamic World" here on March 27-28, 2006.

Present in the dialog were 17 Islamic leaders from Muslims populated countries and a representative of Rabithah Al Islami. The meeting was organized by a Russian NGO, but in fact the organizer was a former government official in this state.

The meeting presided over by Evgeny Maksimovich Primakov, former Russian Prime Minister during Boris Yeltsin leadership. At the opening of the meeting, Primakov read out a written message of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Russian Head of Government revealed in his message that the Russian foreign policy gives priority to the dialog with the Islamic world. He explained that Russia has a long history of the Islamic world, relating to the aspects of economy, security, science/technology and culture.

Islam entered Russia in the seventh century and then developed in the Russian peninsula. Bukhara, the birthplace of renowned Islamic leader Imam Bukhari, used to be part the dissolved Soviet Union. Islam has shown the rapidest growth in Russia, about 15 percent of the Russian population consists of Muslims today.

It seems that Putin is desirous of retrieving good relations with the Islamic world, or probably wants to use the relationship with the Islamic world as a vehicle to get back the Russian position as a superpower.

When asked by the press about the political and economic benefit Russia expects to obtain by embracing the Islamic world, Primakov said diplomatically Russia does not think of advantage or disadvantage in organizing the meeting but just hopes for the creation of justice and equality between nations, especially in the Islamic world.

Whatever arguments Primakov has made, the initiative of holding a meeting which was attended by the 17 Muslim leaders including Ayatullah Taskhiry from Iran, Prince Ghazi of Jordan and Din Syamsuddin (chairman of the Indonesian Islamic organization Muhammadiyah), has given an impression that Russia wants to take advantage of its relations with the Islamic world.

Indonesian Ambassador to Russia Susanto Pudjomartono said Russia is using the Islamic card in its foreign policy for various purposes, including breaking US foreign policy`s domination.

Susanto shared the same view with Din Stamsuddin that influencing each other or embracing other countries to consolidate power for the sake of the common interests is normal in the foreign policy of a state. In the country, Susanto said, the Russian Government has approached Islamic groups. There are a quite large number of Islamic groups in Russia, and Islam is the second biggest religion after Orthodox Christianity in this country.

Last year, the Russian Government celebrated Hijriah Islamic New Year, indicating a progress in Russian relations with the Islamic world. However, there were reports of small incidents that still occurred like an assault on a mosque by an extremist group in Russia.

Building new power

Like Ambassador Susanto, Muhammadiyah Chairman Din Syamsuddin is of the view that seeking friends by influencing each other is common in the foreign policy of a country.

"It is nothing out of the common to see a power seeking to form an alliance with others to face another strong power," said Syamsuddin. He believed that Russia, which was formerly part of dissolved superpower Soviet Union, still has the leftover potential.

Russia now has big foreign exchange reserves with the soaring crude oil price on the world market. This country fulfills 25 percent of the demand for energy in Europe. India and China have also relied on Russia for their energy supply. This state has also got large income from the sale of armaments.

The Russian Government has offered a US$1 billion credit to Indonesia to be disbursed in stages. This year Russia will deliver US$200 million to Indonesia for the purchase of Russian-made Sukhoi jet fighters.

The Islamic world`s power is worthy of consideration, according to Syamsuddin. He pointed out that there are some 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, with human resources quality and ethical standards contained in the Islamic values. The Islamic world is rich in natural resources like petroleum and other mining products, he said.

Din emphasized that it is time to end United States domination, even more so with US trans-global policy on the eradication of global terrorism by using terrorist ways.

The chairman of the Indonesian Ulemas Council (MUI) further said the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, the threat to Iran and Syria, and the double standard practiced by the US and its alliance have made the Islamic world restless. "It is necessary, therefore, to form a power to counterbalance US hegemony," he revealed.

Concerning the Indonesian position, Din said Indonesia surely deserves to become a strategic partner to build the new power as Indonesia is the world`s most-populous Moslem majority country today.

Joint communique

As one of the victims of terrorist attacks, Indonesia, like Russia and the Islamic world, is against terrorism. Therefore, the Russia - Islamic World dialog here on March 27-28, 2006 resulted in a joint statement on the development of cooperation in the fields of economy, culture, science/technology and security as well as the eradication of terrorism, according to Din.

He emphasized the need to take concrete corrective measures against the existing accumulative problems currently threatening the world like poverty, ignorance and backwardness. Efforts to get rid of those problems should not be merely rhetorical, he said.

One of the important measures that must be taken is, according to Din, creating a peaceful, fair, civilized and balanced world as contained in the Joint Statement issued at the end of the Russia" Islamic world dialog.

Learning from experience in connection with the occupation of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union in the past, the US used the Islamic issue to oppose Soviet occupation of that Central Asian country.

After a terrorist attack on the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, the US occupied Iraq and supported the Afghan Government at that time, and now Russia is approaching the Islamic world to show its role. Thus, it is not clear, who makes use of who, and where the Islamic world should be.

Irrespective of all those matters, may the idea of fostering a relationship through the Russia - Islamic world dialog be fulfilled. (*)

http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=10825
17 posted on 04/01/2006 7:11:55 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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Hurray, a new thread!!!

Granny's googles - I love it!
18 posted on 04/01/2006 7:16:49 PM PST by Velveeta
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New info....

Al-Qaeda plotters sought Canadian as pilot, court told
TU THANH HA AND COLIN FREEZE

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

A Montreal resident was picked by al-Qaeda plotters to be a pilot in a second wave of suicide hijackings to follow the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks because he was a Canadian citizen, a deposition filed at the U.S. trial of terror suspect Zacarias Moussaoui alleges.

Abderraouf Jdey, a Montrealer of Tunisian origin who is now a fugitive, obtained his Canadian citizenship in 1995. He was selected along with Mr. Moussaoui, a French citizen, because they had passports from Western countries, since al-Qaeda planners expected tighter security after Sept. 11, the court document says.

“Al Qaeda wanted the second wave operatives to carry French, Canadian, Malaysian, or Indonesian passports instead of Middle Eastern passports,” the document says.

The 58-page document is the first detailed account of what Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 plot, told U.S. interrogators after his capture in 2003.

The document says that Mr. Mohammed used only operatives from the Middle East for the first wave of attacks so as not to draw attention to the possibility of later hijacks by people using passports from other countries.

The deposition was filed at the U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., for the death-penalty trial of Mr. Moussaoui.

Mr. Jdey, whose name is also transliterated as al-Jiddi, is a shadowy figure who gained notoriety after the Federal Bureau of Investigation identified him as a terror suspect in 2002. A $5-million (U.S.) reward was offered for his capture.

The U.S. commission probing the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks first identified Mr. Jdey as a candidate for the 9/11 strikes or “for a later attack,” but did not elaborate.

The deposition explains for the first time that Mr. Jdey was picked because he had obtained Canadian citizenship, citing Mr. Mohammed, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his top military lieutenant until 2001, Mohammad Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri.

“Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Hafs and bin Laden agreed that finding non-Arab passport holders was a priority because it would be difficult for Middle Eastern passport holders to operate in the U.S. after 9/11,” the document says.

It also gives specifics about the allegations against Mr. Jdey, who is identified by one of his pseudonyms, Faruq Al-Tunisi:

Mr. Jdey and Mr. Moussaoui were among three candidates to be pilots in the second wave of hijackings, which “entailed the same steps as the Sept. 11 hijackers: getting flight lessons, purchasing knives, etc.”

(Contradicting the deposition, which portrays him as an unreliable, problematic operative, Mr. Moussaoui claimed in court this week that he was supposed to hijack a plane on Sept. 11 and crash it into the White House.)

The second wave's targets were to be in the western United States, such as an unidentified bridge in San Francisco, but the Sears Tower in Chicago was also mentioned.

“While the 9/11 operation evolved into an East Coast attack, bin Laden himself advised that a second wave attack should focus on the West, believing that security might be more lax there.”

A few months before Sept. 11, Mr. Jdey withdrew from the plot. “Faruq Al-Tunisi contacted Sheikh Mohammed from Canada during the summer of 2001 to back out,” the filing says with no further explanation.

In any event, the second wave never took place.

“Sheikh Mohammed had no idea that the damage of the first attack would be as catastrophic as it was, and he did not plan on the U.S. responding to the attacks as fiercely as they did, which led to the next phase being postponed,” the deposition says.

While the document does not elaborate on how the second wave attackers would have trained, it offers fresh details on the preparation of the Sept. 11 operatives.

It says, for example, that the “muscle hijackers,” who were to take over the planes, butchered sheep and a camel with Swiss knives “to prepare them for using their knives during the hijackings.”

They were not immediately told of their targets and were also taught how to blow up buildings, trains and trucks “to muddy somewhat the real purpose of their training in case they were caught while in transit to the U.S.”

Mr. Jdey first came to the FBI's attention after he was among five men whose wills and martyrdom videotapes were found in the Kabul home of Mr. Atef, who was killed during the U.S. bombing campaign in Afghanistan in late 2001.

Mr. Jdey came to Canada as an independent immigrant, on a visa issued in Rabat, Morocco. He landed at Montreal's Mirabel International Airport in April of 1991. According to the U.S. State Department's Rewards for Justice program, Mr. Jdey studied biology while in Montreal.

Mr. Jdey lived in a modest apartment building in Montreal's east-end Rosemont district and is believed to have left Canada in November of 2001.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060401.wxterror01/BNStory/National/home


19 posted on 04/01/2006 7:20:27 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: All; appalachian_dweller

Reminding all to check out the prep & supplies list on Appalachian Dweller's home page:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~appalachiandweller/


20 posted on 04/01/2006 7:21:20 PM PST by Velveeta
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