Posted on 04/01/2006 1:02:53 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
The military, quite cleverly, has not yet briefed you on what secrets she might have told them.
Just be patient. You'll get your turn.
Sorry guys. I only watch Fox News, so I must have missed the truth on CNN.
I am very glad to hear that. What a contrast in "official statements."
So did the actual hostages praise their military rescuers? If so, I owe them an apology.
Just as reference, I have been here supporting Jill until she was on safe ground for exactly the reasons you state.
"Why did she refuse to debrief with the U.S. Military? She could have given them some valuable info, but she deliberately chose not to."
Actually, I think that she did talk to the military. Here is that part of her statement.
"At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times," she said. "Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: That I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military and that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither is true."
OK. I, for one, would have taken my hat off. You undercut your argument by comparing it to disrobing.
I don't quite understand how this mattered in terms of what she said in the interview.
Poor girls been through quite an ordeal
She said things she was made to say, not her own words.
I'd cut her some slack
I'd been there, done that! Not that extreme but my family lived in Saudi, no life for a women.
??? When did the US armed forces start taking *that* approach? That's completely the *opposite* of what I was taught in SERE in 1973, and afterwards by the Army.
Has the armed forces stopped using The US Fighting Man's Code?
the infowarrior
Don't you guys in medicine take history courses anymore? YOu ought to know this stuff second nature.
There are women who are able to deal with Saudi ~ most aren't. One I know grew up Moslem in the Philippines. She thought it was great that Riyadh was such a modern city, and even society, in general, was much more progressive than in her hometown. Another is a nurse.
Since everybody in the world knows that almost everybody can be coerced into saying anything, no one believes propaganda films.
Let me amend that ~ we have some Freepers who believe propaganda films and the New York Times and CBS. I don't.
....can't speak for the other services but USAFA adapted this policy in the late 60's after it was learned that
some captive pilots were being executed in North Viet Nam as a result of saying nothing...it was understood that any statements made under duress under such circumstances were invalid and disavowable
This tramp is in line for the Lead Head of the month award.
Interesting... As I said, *my* experiences were totally different. In SERE in the early 70's (1973, to be exact), the Army had a policy which was The US Fighting Man's Code, adopted just post Korean War, which emphasized not even giving the *appearance* of cooperating with the enemy. I, of course, don't hold civilians to the standard set forth in the Code, so it doesn't apply to Ms Carroll at all, but your statement defintely caught my eye...
the infowarrior
She had no business being there. I'll second it. It is a war zone. The soldiers belong there. Were there women running around German/ Guadalcanal? reporting on the fighting? NO. Because ... it was dangerous. Also, if they are just observing, they do not truly understand, I think.
It IS easy from our safety over here. However, we still get to have opinions. And we still have to think what we might have done in that situation. Else only those first-person players in any given situation get an opinion? Dream on.
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