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Father learned daughter connected to Duke case from media reports (Duke Lacrosse Coach Threatened)
Knight Ridder Newspapers; WRAL; NBC17 | TONYA JAMESON

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Howlin

DURHAM, N.C. - The father of the woman who has accused members of the Duke lacrosse team of sexually assaulting her said he didn't find out that his daughter was the reported victim - and that she is an exotic dancer - until a reporter visited his house.

The retired trucker who lives in Durham said he saw his daughter the day after the reported attack, but she didn't say anything was wrong. She even left her car at the house for several days because he said she didn't want to drive it.

Her father, a quiet man who tinkers on cars as a hobby, said he saw news reports about the attack.

"I didn't know it was my daughter," he said. The Charlotte Observer generally does not name victims of sexual assault, so his name is being withheld to protect the identity of his daughter.

The case has ignited campus protests and stirred racial tension in Durham. The woman at the center of the case is black, and the men she accuses are white. She also is a student at N.C. Central University, a historically black college near Durham's inner-city, compared with the more expensive Duke campus.

DNA tests have been conducted on 46 of the lacrosse players, who deny the allegations. A 47th member, who is black, was not tested because the woman said her attackers were white.

Last week, a reporter stopped by the reported victim's house looking for her, the woman's father said, but he said he didn't know what was going on. He called his daughter and she said the district attorney told her not talk to anyone.

"(She) didn't tell us anything about it," he said.

He said he also found out through the media that his daughter, who is the youngest of three, was an exotic dancer.

"She always told me she was going to work," he said.

On Friday, he installed a timing belt in a car and watched his daughter's two children play outside the house. He said working on cars and playing with the grandchildren helps take his mind off what's happening with his daughter.

He said she seems to be doing "pretty good," and so is the rest of the family. He said they haven't talked much about the reported incident, but it weighs heavily on his mind. He said he's grateful that N.C. Central has been so supportive, but he doesn't like how his daughter has been portrayed in the media. And he's especially frustrated that no one has been charged in the connection with the allegations.

"If it had been anybody but them, they would have been locked up, but yet they didn't because it's Duke," he said. "I hope them boys - if they did it - I hope they get what they deserve. I hope they don't go lenient on them."

District Attorney Michael Nifong said he's waiting for results of the DNA test and that he does not expect to file charges in the case any earlier than next week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crystalmangum; duke; dukelax; dukeu; lacrosse
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To: PleaseNoMore

I know. And it doesnt' list a pocketbook or much of her stuff, does it?


441 posted on 04/02/2006 10:04:43 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
That certainly could have happened. I am getting antsy about the "neighbor" like I said up the thread; he's revising and embellishing his story the more interviews he does. He's a Gladys Kravtiz wannabe, IMO.

I believe he saw something, but by this time he has seen and read so many media reports that I'm sure that they are starting to meld with his actually memory of what he thought he saw.

442 posted on 04/02/2006 10:15:23 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Howlin

If "Kim" left before the attack, why was she around to take the accuser to Kroger? Didn't the accuser say they met for the first time that night?


443 posted on 04/02/2006 10:15:23 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: GAgal

That's what she said in the original N&O interview.


444 posted on 04/02/2006 10:17:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: singlemomofone
So why did they drive to a Kroger store to make their "report of rape"...rather than driving to the police station?

Maybe they just didn't know where the police station was?

445 posted on 04/02/2006 10:21:20 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Howlin

According to the memory impaired Mr. Bissey in the link below, they arrived, came outside after 20 min., got into ONE car amidst a crowd of angry, slur-spewing party-goers. Then after a time when things calmed down, ONE woman went back in to get her shoes. If an attack occurred, that would likely have been the time imo ... with "Kim" remaining in the car outside.
http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/421799.html


446 posted on 04/02/2006 10:29:16 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: PleaseNoMore
You've never had acrylic nails have you? These girls don't use Lee Press On nails anymore. They go for the expensive acrylics. Having had them myself, I can tell you they don't come off easily and when they do come off without being taken off properly by the manicurist, it hurts.

I got them one time and was rushing through a door and got my fingernail jammed into the little metal thing on the door frame. It was torture pulling it out and it only barely pulled up one side of the artificial nail. I can imagine how painful it would be to have the whole thing pulled off. I'll never get them again!

447 posted on 04/02/2006 10:36:22 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Locomotive Breath

I heard "artificial fingernails" on one of the cable news shows. I know it wasn't Nancy Grace--she already has the whole lacrosse team tried and convicted on her show.

Thanks for explaining the Duke admissions policies. Many who don't have children in college don't understand how this works.


448 posted on 04/02/2006 10:41:14 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Howlin

Good question. I'm wondering why she told the N.O. reporter that her Dad came to the hospital but he told a reporter that he only heard about it through the press. Could she be lying?


449 posted on 04/02/2006 10:43:17 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Palladin
I know it wasn't Nancy Grace--she already has the whole lacrosse team tried and convicted on her show.

Oh, gosh; she's covering this? UGH.

450 posted on 04/02/2006 10:52:44 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: RGSpincich

At this point, who knows.

But they both talked to reporters, so it's not rumor. It's words out of their own mouths.


451 posted on 04/02/2006 10:53:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: GAgal

Okay, so Duke own the house. That means they could be held liable (a stretch perhaps but not so far-flung that some lawyers wouldn't try it). They essentially put the jocks in the house.

Mr. Bissey-body says the house has often been the scene of loud parties and the police have been called out there four other times in seven months.

There's a lot to the accuser's story that doesn't add up but there are some things from the player's side that makes you wonder too.

BTW, it is probably an older house given its location near campus and I've been in some older homes where there is more room in the bathroom than you'd find in newer homes. Four people could fit in one old home's bathroom I remember living in for a time. It wouldn't be comfortable but it would be large enough to do the deed and this was a very modest home I am talking about.

This is not going to be an easy case. At least not without some breakthrough like a DNA match.


452 posted on 04/02/2006 11:04:28 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: PleaseNoMore

I doubt they knew where the police station was especially if they're not from that part of town. I couldn't tell you where is the nearest police station to my house as, thankfully, I've never had a chance to need it. That particular Kroger has, for years been open 24/7 IIRC.


453 posted on 04/02/2006 11:05:08 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

I did not know that. Thanks - it makes sense. But I have to ask, if someone removed numbers from that house I would doubt it was someone with the university. Who in any offical capacity would have the poor judgement to remove evidence from a crime scene especially as it would probably be pretty hard to cover up the fact that numbers had formerly been there?


454 posted on 04/02/2006 11:10:58 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Palladin

I knew this for a long time. If you're really interested read a recent book called "Admissions Confidential". The writer, whose name I forget, was IMHO pretty bonkers and really hated Duke for a variety of reasons, but I believe she accurately described how the admissions process works.


455 posted on 04/02/2006 11:16:42 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Elyse

Well, it's been a long time since my nail wearing days (yuk, yuk). From your experience it sounds like it's fairly easy to damage them even if it's painful. It's interesting that this woman can afford the high-class nails but maybe the IRS lets her write them off as a "business expense". Myself, I've never understood the attraction of those nails as they, ummm, easily give out accidental scratches.


456 posted on 04/02/2006 11:38:45 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

It says artificial nails on the search warrant.


457 posted on 04/02/2006 11:57:47 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the facts, ma'am!


458 posted on 04/02/2006 12:17:13 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Who in any offical capacity would have the poor judgement to remove evidence from a crime scene especially as it would probably be pretty hard to cover up the fact that numbers had formerly been there?

According to documents posted at Smokinggun.com the house numbers were on the front of the house black numbers 610 as of March 16th. The incident and 911 call were March 13-14 time frame. At least part of the alleged victim's account of events is listed on documents at smoking gun and there are first "names" for the alleged bathroom assailants.

459 posted on 04/02/2006 12:19:38 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: Locomotive Breath

Are you kidding? Do you really think this girl files taxes on the money she earns from "escort services"? You don't know much about this line of work and the types of people who do it do you?


460 posted on 04/02/2006 12:25:46 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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