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Father learned daughter connected to Duke case from media reports (Duke Lacrosse Coach Threatened)
Knight Ridder Newspapers; WRAL; NBC17 | TONYA JAMESON

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Howlin

DURHAM, N.C. - The father of the woman who has accused members of the Duke lacrosse team of sexually assaulting her said he didn't find out that his daughter was the reported victim - and that she is an exotic dancer - until a reporter visited his house.

The retired trucker who lives in Durham said he saw his daughter the day after the reported attack, but she didn't say anything was wrong. She even left her car at the house for several days because he said she didn't want to drive it.

Her father, a quiet man who tinkers on cars as a hobby, said he saw news reports about the attack.

"I didn't know it was my daughter," he said. The Charlotte Observer generally does not name victims of sexual assault, so his name is being withheld to protect the identity of his daughter.

The case has ignited campus protests and stirred racial tension in Durham. The woman at the center of the case is black, and the men she accuses are white. She also is a student at N.C. Central University, a historically black college near Durham's inner-city, compared with the more expensive Duke campus.

DNA tests have been conducted on 46 of the lacrosse players, who deny the allegations. A 47th member, who is black, was not tested because the woman said her attackers were white.

Last week, a reporter stopped by the reported victim's house looking for her, the woman's father said, but he said he didn't know what was going on. He called his daughter and she said the district attorney told her not talk to anyone.

"(She) didn't tell us anything about it," he said.

He said he also found out through the media that his daughter, who is the youngest of three, was an exotic dancer.

"She always told me she was going to work," he said.

On Friday, he installed a timing belt in a car and watched his daughter's two children play outside the house. He said working on cars and playing with the grandchildren helps take his mind off what's happening with his daughter.

He said she seems to be doing "pretty good," and so is the rest of the family. He said they haven't talked much about the reported incident, but it weighs heavily on his mind. He said he's grateful that N.C. Central has been so supportive, but he doesn't like how his daughter has been portrayed in the media. And he's especially frustrated that no one has been charged in the connection with the allegations.

"If it had been anybody but them, they would have been locked up, but yet they didn't because it's Duke," he said. "I hope them boys - if they did it - I hope they get what they deserve. I hope they don't go lenient on them."

District Attorney Michael Nifong said he's waiting for results of the DNA test and that he does not expect to file charges in the case any earlier than next week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crystalmangum; duke; dukelax; dukeu; lacrosse
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To: singlemomofone
that one player yelled: "I want my money back."
So it seems they did get paid.

Thanks for that info ... though it also sounds like they didn't perform well

421 posted on 04/02/2006 9:18:57 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mo1

"IF the second stripper drove her to Krogers..."

I recall reading that the police station was only nine-tenths of a mile away from the house...and that it was closer to the house than the Kroger store.

So why did they drive to a Kroger store to make their "report of rape"...rather than driving to the police station?


422 posted on 04/02/2006 9:24:01 AM PDT by singlemomofone
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To: Locomotive Breath

Information was reported on Foxs News several days ago and again on a NewsObserver article dated April 2 available as a "latest" article now. Duke bought 15 homes off campus partly because of recurring neighborhood complaints. They had plans to rehabilitate and then return the properties to stable homeowners. This was to be done within a year time frame.


423 posted on 04/02/2006 9:25:12 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: singlemomofone
So why did they drive to a Kroger store to make their "report of rape"...rather than driving to the police station?

To figure out what story they were going to tell?

There is a big piece to this story that hasn't been told yet, IMO

424 posted on 04/02/2006 9:25:51 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Howlin

She wouldn't have known where to go at all if the escort service hadn't told her. There would be evidence of numbers being taken off of the house recently. You know, fading from the sun compared to the fresh area where the numbers were. The guy(s) who "ordered" the night's entertainment would have given the address to the escort service so the service would know where to send the girls. If they didn't think to clean up the evidence (fingernails) they surely wouldn't have thought to take down numbers from the house, would they? What good would THAT do them as they had already given their house number to the service?


425 posted on 04/02/2006 9:27:48 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Howlin

Hey, wait a minute...I am a Duke fan and didn't go to college there, lol.


426 posted on 04/02/2006 9:32:55 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Locomotive Breath
Fake nails are easily removed.

You've never had acrylic nails have you? These girls don't use Lee Press On nails anymore. They go for the expensive acrylics. Having had them myself, I can tell you they don't come off easily and when they do come off without being taken off properly by the manicurist, it hurts.

427 posted on 04/02/2006 9:36:31 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Ken H

Did you listen to the end of the call? The caller even thanked the dispatcher for listening and told her she wasn't harmed and wouldn't pursue the matter. She ended by calling the dispatcher "baby". From the ending to their conversation, it was as if she and the dispatcher were old friends talking.


428 posted on 04/02/2006 9:42:03 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: singlemomofone
Allure is listed here:

http://www.switchboard.com/Escort_Services/Durham/NC/1705/Yellowpages_Results.html

Along with the phone number they advertise "Escorts, Miscellaneous Personal Services".

429 posted on 04/02/2006 9:44:41 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: singlemomofone
So why did they drive to a Kroger store to make their "report of rape"...rather than driving to the police station?

Good question.

430 posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:32 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Elyse

That certainly could have happened. I am getting antsy about the "neighbor" like I said up the thread; he's revising and embellishing his story the more interviews he does. He's a Gladys Kravtiz wannabe, IMO.


431 posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: RGSpincich

I wonder why she told her father she didn't want to drive her car for a couple of days.


432 posted on 04/02/2006 9:46:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

In the items recovered section of the search warrant, it lists 160.oo as being siezed from the house.


433 posted on 04/02/2006 9:51:42 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Howlin
That's not what happened; she got there before midnight, went in and started doing whatever they do, said the men got "excited," they got scared and left. The neighbor says he saw them come out in about 20 minutes, go back in supposedly to "get her shoes" and then the two of them got back in the car and sped off.

But yet, she was gang raped for 30 minutes?

434 posted on 04/02/2006 9:52:48 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ
The house numbers was not the only reason the 911 was questioned. There are quite a few discrepancies in that one call.

You indeed have lost credibility with me and I'm sure others that have followed this thread

Huh? I'm not here to justify my statements to you or anybody else; you're free to question them, but this isn't a popularity contest.

And I'm certainly not here to inform you about this case; don't like the disccusion? Find another thread.

This is a thread for people who are interested in this story. This is what we DO at Free Republic; the others on this thread are adding their input and we're discussing what is in the public realm.

Whatever your problem with this story is, don't try to make it about me.

435 posted on 04/02/2006 9:54:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: PleaseNoMore
Did you listen to the end of the call?

No, I was going by the transcript of the Abrams interview posted here. It seemed to indicate that the conversation ended at that point.

436 posted on 04/02/2006 9:55:25 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Howlin

Has it been reported whether Dancer 2, aka Kim, was at the house during the time of the alleged attack?


437 posted on 04/02/2006 9:57:54 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: GAgal

Some reports say they both went back in and were separated. The neighbor said they arrived together and left together.

The DA told one of the cable channels that she had left earlier and wasn't involved (He also said categorically that she wasn't the one of the first 911 phone call, just hours before the papers confirmed it was here)

Now she has been confirmed as being the one who was with her at Kroger's, but nothing firm has been reported about where she was during all of this alleged event.


438 posted on 04/02/2006 10:01:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: PleaseNoMore

Not much.


439 posted on 04/02/2006 10:03:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Brytani
This CLUB lacrosse, not the Varsity Team.
440 posted on 04/02/2006 10:03:45 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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