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1 posted on 03/30/2006 6:13:20 PM PST by SandRat
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2 posted on 03/30/2006 6:13:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Aguilar said the bill was “headed in the right direction, but from Mexico’s point of view it doesn’t resolve the entire problem.”

Doesn't resolve the entire problem from my point of view either. A long, tall fence would go a long way towards improving things.

5 posted on 03/30/2006 6:25:15 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: SandRat

GO TO HELL, FOX.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 6:25:54 PM PST by Rebelbase (Bush signed CFR. He deserves to be bitched at as much as McCain.)
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To: SandRat

Senor Vicente Fox, how many fingers am I holding up?
(Hint: More than none and less than two.)


7 posted on 03/30/2006 6:26:35 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SandRat

If there is no international border between Mexico and the US, then we might as well declare Mexico a US state. What the heck, we own the place anyway ever since we bailed them out will billions. Either that, or it is time for Fox to stop sending his poor and unemployed masses north.


8 posted on 03/30/2006 6:30:20 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping and GO JD!!!


9 posted on 03/30/2006 6:32:32 PM PST by JustPiper (Illegal Protesting Jihad going on)
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To: SandRat

Rep. Hayworth is a credit to the GOP. He doesn't let PCisms stand in the way of common sense.


10 posted on 03/30/2006 6:37:03 PM PST by OkeyDokeyOkie
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To: SandRat

Again, here are my ten points that is needed minimally. I don't know what is in the law, but I'm sure they stole it from me:
1. All illegals must register under some federal identity program.
2. All must be fingerprinted and entered in a worker database.
3. All must show a record of "paid" health insurance policy.
4. All must show proof of paid annual auto insurance.
5. All must show worker's comp insurance.
6. All must show appropriate, valid drivers license.
7. All must register all family members in the states.
8. All must pass some basic english speaking skills.
9. All must pass a bilateral crime database exchange shared between the U.S. and mexico to ferret out the criminals.
10. All must pay an initial fee to re-validate their status (after all the above are satisfied). This fee is $6,500 per family member, initially. $6,500 x 14 million illegals. This is equal to 9 trillion dollars and we can retire the national debt overnight.

Like I said, you heard it here first. Besides, as Congressman Sullivan (R-OK) said, we truly do not have enough buses to send back 14 million people. Unless you use 100 cruise liners that could carry 1,000 people equals 100,000 people, times 140 trips. Thats a lot of trips down the coast. Of course, it could be an endeavor to rebuild new orleans.


12 posted on 03/30/2006 6:40:13 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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Update 16: Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants

By NEDRA PICKLER , 03.30.2006, 09:22 PM

With Mexican President Vicente Fox at his side, President Bush gave Congress a long-distance push Thursday to open the United States to immigrant workers who have been sneaking across the borders to fill low-paying jobs.

"We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do," Bush said at the end of a private meeting with Fox, where the issue was on top of the agenda. "We want them coming in in an orderly way, which will take pressure off both our borders."

The meeting between the Mexican and U.S. leaders came on the first day of a two-day North American summit that also includes Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Harper, meeting with Bush for the first time since taking office two months ago with the promise of building stronger ties with Washington, said the two countries are moving past their "tension" over Iraq.

Still, he took a combative stance on their long-standing dispute over U.S. tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber, saying Canada would "pursue all its legal options" if he and Bush can't work out an agreement.

But it was the immigration debate, which has dominated the U.S. Senate this week, that took center stage in talks conducted in a beachfront resort surrounded by bikini-clad spring breakers. A new immigration law could affect as many as 6 million Mexicans living illegally in the United States - about half of all those who are estimated to have sneaked in from other countries seeking new opportunities they can't find at home.

Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that would let foreigners in low-paying jobs stay temporarily, which Fox says is a good first step toward some form of legal status for all Mexican illegal immigrants.

The issue has united the two leaders, whose friendship dates back to Bush's time as Texas governor but was strained over Fox's objections to the war in Iraq. But immigration has divided Bush's Republican party, with business interests who want cheap labor battling conservatives who want a get-tough policy against illegal immigrants.

Fox suggested the issue is largely out of their hands now.

"The matter is in the Congress of the United States and that is where the decision will be made," Fox said. "It is no longer between President Bush and President Fox."

But both leaders were clearly trying to sway the debate.

"I told the president there is a legislative process that's going forward," Bush said. "And that it may look cumbersome to some, but that's how our democracy works."

Bush added, "I'm optimistic that we can get a bill done."

The summit included plenty of time to be neighborly. The three leaders dressed casually in open-collared shirts and strolled together among the ancient Mayan ruins at Chichen Itza before sitting down for more intense one-on-one meetings. Fox planned a lavish dinner for his guests.

After spending the morning sightseeing, Bush had a few hours off before the formal meetings began. He used part of the time to work up a sweat in his hotel's gym.

There was tight security despite the fun-loving atmosphere generated by college students who have flocked to Cancun for spring break. Gunboats patrolled the turquoise waters off Bush's spa resort, and fencing kept out all but hotel guests. "I'd like to make sure you work more than you play," Bush joked to reporters.

The trilateral meeting was expected to be Fox's last, since he is set to leave office this year because of term limits. Bush lauded Fox for stabilizing the Mexican economy and improving the net worth of his people.

"That's important for the American economy as well," Bush said. "The more net worth there is in Mexico, the more likely it is the Mexican may be wanting to buy a U.S. product. And vice versa, by the way."

In his meeting with Harper, Bush sought to make the newly elected leader look good at home, making it a point to stress how hard the Canadian leader had pressed him on the softwood lumber issue. Harper "made an emphatic case," Bush said.

"I appreciate his steely resolve to get something done," the president said. "I appreciate your pushing."

But Bush didn't give Harper much of substance, saying only that "my intent is to negotiate in good faith and a timely fashion to resolve this issue."

15 posted on 03/30/2006 6:44:31 PM PST by TexKat
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The illegal aliens and the criminals who hire them and the criminals who harbor them are getting out in the street making their desires known. It is way past time those of us who support the rule of law and secure borders did the same.

Join Veterans for Secure Borders, The Minuteman Project, Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, Mothers Against Illegal Aliens, and other groups protesting amnesty for these criminals, and demanding the government protect our borders.

http://www.areckoning.com/

FReepers should be at this rally in strength. Saturday, May 6, in Crawford, TX.


16 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:00 PM PST by SUSSA
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President George W. Bush stands with President Vicente Fox of Mexico, left, and Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper, during a visit Thursday, March 30, 2006, to the Chichen-Itza Archaeological Ruins. White House photo by Kimberlee Hewitt


20 posted on 03/30/2006 6:52:43 PM PST by TexKat
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To: SandRat

It's heartening to see that there are still some American patriots in the leadership. Not many, but a few. Hayworth, Tancredo and others in congress standing against this sellout of American sovereignty.


29 posted on 03/30/2006 7:23:00 PM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: SandRat
"I respectfully request that you publicly make it clear to both men that their clumsy, over-the-top rhetoric about internal U.S. political matters pertaining to our border security is unwarranted and unacceptable," he wrote.

Mexico Offers Help in Exchange for Visas
March 27, 2006

The Mexican government placed a full-page advertisement [Allyn & Co., a U.S. public relations firm placed the ads for the Mexican government] in major U.S. newspapers last week that said Mexican efforts to stop illegal emigration into the U.S. would be contingent on the United States' providing a "sufficient number of appropriate visas" to Mexican nationals who now enter the U.S. illegally.

"If a guest country offers a sufficient number of appropriate visas to cover the largest possible number of workers and their families, who currently cross the border without document because of the impossibility of obtaining them, Mexico should be responsible for guaranteeing that each person who decides to leave does so following legal channels."

Mexican Embassy Communications Director Rafael Laveaga declined to say what the Mexican government would do about illegal emigration if the U.S did not supply "sufficient" visas.

[snip]

38 posted on 03/30/2006 8:36:09 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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I'm liking J.D. Hayworth more and more every day.

I hope Jorge's pandering in Mexico wakes the sleeping "leaders" in the House and Senate up. America is being sold out while they sleep.

A Tancredo/Hayworth ticket for 2008 has a nice sound to it.

41 posted on 03/30/2006 9:17:59 PM PST by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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Mexico knows a sucker when it sees one.


44 posted on 03/31/2006 4:31:19 AM PST by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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