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What questions should we ask the RECRUITER?

Posted on 03/30/2006 1:37:22 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1

My daughter is talking to RECRUITER for military service, and we have someone coming by from the Army tonight.

Can you please help me with questions to ask?

We plan to talk to all branches before she decides. Thank you for any help.


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To: frankenMonkey

Generally frowned on.

If your son or daughter is really military material they can make their own decisions. And they need to.

One should simply be aware of what one really wants when one goes military...whether it is a uniform and image; whether it is high tech skill training, etc...and stay open minded when working with the MEPPS people because they may qualify for things they never knew existed.


121 posted on 03/30/2006 5:04:11 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Libloather

Bad advice.


There is nothing the recruiter can do to obligate the daughter to enlist. Nothing.

But base on your advice, she couldn't even sign to take the test.


Again, bad advice


122 posted on 03/30/2006 5:07:51 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

I strongly recommend that you ask your daughter to think carefully about what sort of work she'd like to do if she ever decided to get out of the military. Some career fields in the service can really help her get a great job when she gets out, should she decide to do so. Some career fields really don't "translate" into the civilian world very well.

Additionally, as someone with 25 years in the Air Force, I would take those comments about the AF being the "best bet" with a grain of salt. Each force has its strong and weaker points.


123 posted on 03/30/2006 5:08:27 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Wristpin

"Test scores permitting, a highly technical field is preferred. "

I understand what you're saying, but there are other great career fields that aren't all technical. For example, if she's strong in language skills there are amazing language opportunities in the military.


124 posted on 03/30/2006 5:13:11 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1; Eagle Eye
There is nothing the recruiter can do to obligate the daughter to enlist.

An enlistment contract would do the trick.

DON'T SIGN ANYTHING!

125 posted on 03/30/2006 5:14:05 PM PST by Libloather (You say Dubai, and I say hello...)
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To: Libloather

A recruiter making a house visit cannot enlist anyone.

Please, stop displaying ignorance and offering bad advice.


126 posted on 03/30/2006 5:15:17 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1; Eagle Eye
A recruiter making a house visit cannot enlist anyone.

When I enlisted, one or both parents had to sign as well. At the time, I was still considered a minor.

DON'T SIGN ANYTHING!

127 posted on 03/30/2006 5:19:02 PM PST by Libloather (You say Dubai, and I say hello...)
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To: RavenATB

True...I should have stated that better...Lot's of good worthy jobs have to be done. As young person going in that has to be one of the decisions which needs to be thoughtfully considered. I was fortunate with my choice. I liked it so much I stayed for 22, but it was just blind luck, as I didn't know enough to ask many questions.

Like I said, I saw many good people who worked like dogs, and watched their peers zoom up the ranks ahead of them because they were in a clogged MOS.


128 posted on 03/30/2006 5:23:40 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
ALSO DEMAND A RANK OF E2 OR HIGHER UPON COMPLETION OF BASIC TRAINING!........"

I think that is automatically given after basic anyway, if not it comes very shortly after.

129 posted on 03/30/2006 5:25:05 PM PST by ReformedBeckite
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To: Libloather

Well, since you insist on proving that you don't know what you're talking about...

The daughter must sign forms to take the ASVAB and physical should it go that far. Those are/were DD Form 714s.

The enlistment APPLICATION is non binding. It is only an application. DD Form 1966 series.

Part of the application packet will also be a medical prescreening form (from 398?) and a background check form.

With your advice, the daughter cannot even take the ASVAB which means that she cannot even discuss options like bonuses, college funds, and without aptitude scores she can't even look at some career fields.

Your advice stops everything and doesn't allow anything at all to continue.

Is it your goal to stop her from continuing the process because that's what your advice will do?


130 posted on 03/30/2006 5:26:42 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

Gotta go get kids from scouts....be back later.

Fill me in on what happened.

And despite what the uninformed have said, you now know that the recruiter cannot 'promise' her anything.

"If you qualify and the vacancy exists..."

Good luck!


131 posted on 03/30/2006 5:29:13 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Supernatural

Ping!


132 posted on 03/30/2006 5:30:26 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: pcottraux

Ping!


133 posted on 03/30/2006 5:31:29 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Your advice stops everything and doesn't allow anything at all to continue.

CORRECT! My advise also included - "This decision can take months."

Why is DON'T SIGN ANYTHING so hard to understand?

134 posted on 03/30/2006 5:31:52 PM PST by Libloather (You say Dubai, and I say hello...)
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To: calljack
What are the average fatality rates for my proposed duty?

I'm suicidal... I'd like to be an EOD tech, stationed on the deck of an aircraft carrier!

Mark

135 posted on 03/30/2006 5:42:42 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: calljack
Really though, for a woman going in to the service I think the Air Force is by far the best choice. Lifestyle can be very civillian like. Work on the base 8-5 and go to off base housing if you can afford it. Can be a whole lot like a non military job. I love the Air Force style.

And the best part? The enlisted personell get to send the officers into combat!

Mark

136 posted on 03/30/2006 5:43:53 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: MarkL

Yep! We're no dummies!

In all seriousness, I think it says a lot that the Air Force is willing to invest in its most valuable resource, its people. I've certainly had some nice digs over the years, but I've also worked in utter s**tholes too. You don't go into the military for those things and you handle whatever comes your way. If you can't, the military ain't for you.

The nicest surroundings around don't make a 16 hour day in chem gear with Generals breathing down your neck and people's lives at stake any easier.

The military is a calling and you have to be willing to take the bad with the good.

As for complaining, well that is a military tradition as old as Roman legions.


137 posted on 03/30/2006 6:24:22 PM PST by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: calljack

I was in AF ROTC at one point. Regretted it big time. Biggest complainers I had ever come across.


138 posted on 03/30/2006 6:25:34 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Libloather

Without signing ANYTHING she can't do ANYTHING.

Seems like a pretty STUPID way to make a decision...


139 posted on 03/30/2006 6:53:52 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Your buddies here have made it clear that the USAF is the girlie service...(Squantos you know I'm not talking about your and yours....)



I'm pretty sure the daughter is a girl, and why is Squantos
and his/hers not included? Don't want to insult somebody you know but are comfortable doing it to somebody you don't?


You make it seem like the USAF is someplace for women to go when they can't handle rough challenges.


I thought I was indicating it was the easiest of a group of hard options. In fact I was real careful to stay respectful of all branches, something you have clearly not done.



Now I've seen a Hollywood beautiful Marine working supply in Camp Fallujah Iraq....and dykish looking women in all branches...but this really isn't supposed to be about looks but about the beginning of a career for a young woman.


As a father i would like my girlie girl to survive so I would pick the least deadly of my options. It aint like the Air Force has no career options.
Who the hell mentioned looks?? Oh, it was you.



And recommending a service because it is the 'easiest' or your preference really does her no service at all.



So I should reccomend a service because it is the hardest or because it is not my preference?
She is gonna sign on whatever dotted line she wants anyway.

You might want to tone down the disrespect just a touch.
Lots of folks in the Air Force might want to come over and
share some highlights of their service with you.

No disrespect.



140 posted on 03/30/2006 6:55:24 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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