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'We're on the eve of World War III'
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 28, 2006

Posted on 03/30/2006 9:13:43 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: manwiththehands
I think we've been in WWIII against Islam at least since 9/11.

I believe the war actually started when the Murrah building in Oklahoma City was bombed, followed by the downing of TWA 800 with a shoulder fired missile. Of course there were attacks overseas before those, so the actual start is somewhat murky.

61 posted on 03/30/2006 11:23:56 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: mlc9852
Upon reflection, who was right?

I think most of us have known for decades that Mr. Graham is right.

62 posted on 03/30/2006 11:27:10 AM PST by Mark17
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To: sure_fine

This is going to go on for several generations, unless we begin to use the overwhelming power we have.


63 posted on 03/30/2006 11:30:44 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I believe the war actually started when the Murrah building in Oklahoma City was bombed

Or maybe the 1979 Embassy take over in Iran.

64 posted on 03/30/2006 11:33:43 AM PST by Mark17
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To: The Sons of Liberty; sure_fine

I also believe that both OKC and TWA800 were terrorist strikes, and well-covered-up by us to avaoid a direct problem. Someday, it'll come out as the truth.


65 posted on 03/30/2006 11:34:01 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: West Coast Conservative
A good first strike to head off WWIII


66 posted on 03/30/2006 11:34:16 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: mlc9852
So you DO believe Islam is a peaceful religion? And you call me a fool?

Islam is nothing and, yes, you are a fool.

A religion is nothing. People make it good or evil.

Christianity has been perverted in the past for evil. Does that mean Christianity is evil?

There are good people within Islam. They just don't have a voice. Bush is trying to elevate those people so we don't have to fight all 1.2 billion of them.

67 posted on 03/30/2006 11:47:18 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Many women will support Hillary based solely on her gender -- and it will be praised by the MSM.)
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To: FBD
Do you believe you are more informed then Ibn Warraq or Dr Ali Sina about Islam? Warraq the Arab author of a half dozen books about Islam, including "Leaving Islam"

Michael Moore writes books. That does not make him informed.

68 posted on 03/30/2006 11:48:32 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Many women will support Hillary based solely on her gender -- and it will be praised by the MSM.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Global civilization is on the verge of "World War III," a massive conflict in which the Islamic world will attempt to impose its ideology on Western nations

This just occurred to them?! The Arabs have only been trying to do this for 1000 years.

69 posted on 03/30/2006 11:51:09 AM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: FBD
Ibn Warraq, author of "Leaving Islam" would not agree with that assessment.

Wow. You found someone who agrees with you. Big deal.

The point is that Islam is nothing. People are good or evil. A lot of evil people are perverting Islam for their purposes. Some good people don't want that to happen.

Bush is trying to give a voice and power to those that want to have a peaceful Islam.

The alternative is that we fight all 1.2 billion now.

70 posted on 03/30/2006 11:52:04 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Many women will support Hillary based solely on her gender -- and it will be praised by the MSM.)
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To: nikos1121

Yeah. W may go down in history as the president who cleaned up his dad's biggest mess.


71 posted on 03/30/2006 11:54:41 AM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
Muslims are the children of Satan; this was made very clear on September 11, 2001.

It's easy to say that, "Well, 9/11 was perpetrated by just a handful of kooks who don't represent the majority," I'm still struck by the pictures of the "Arab street" celebrating on September 12th, particularly that hedious Palestinian woman waving her hands in the air. That image is seared into my brain. Then there is the deafening silence from the so-call "moderate Arabs" (there's an oxymoron for you!) who have yet to strongly denounce terrorism.

72 posted on 03/30/2006 11:58:08 AM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Are you aware the Koran tells Muslims to kill non-believers wherever they find them?


73 posted on 03/30/2006 12:00:28 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Are you aware the Koran tells Muslims to kill non-believers wherever they find them?

Actually, that is not true. It is an interpretation that could also be made of the bible....and has been by some in the past!

74 posted on 03/30/2006 12:02:22 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Many women will support Hillary based solely on her gender -- and it will be praised by the MSM.)
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To: My2Cents
We're already in the midst of World War IV. The author needs to get up to speed.

That wasn't the author's assertion, it was a direct quote from Meir Amit. I'm glad you know more than the former head of Mossad....

75 posted on 03/30/2006 12:06:23 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: FBD
Was Islam any closer to forcing its ideology on the Western world on 9/12/01?

I didn't think so.

76 posted on 03/30/2006 12:12:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: West Coast Conservative; All
Well, the Cold War was WWIII... we are already in WWIV, and it has two interlocking elements:

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

"Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


77 posted on 03/30/2006 12:20:46 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Erik Latranyi

So the Koran does NOT say to kill infidels?


78 posted on 03/30/2006 12:23:19 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
So the Koran does NOT say to kill infidels?

Not exactly.

79 posted on 03/30/2006 12:24:51 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Many women will support Hillary based solely on her gender -- and it will be praised by the MSM.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

There is more, of course, but I think you get the picture!

Religion of peace????


80 posted on 03/30/2006 12:35:54 PM PST by mlc9852
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