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Either the fix is in, or Boehner is trying to increase the bidding.

1 posted on 03/29/2006 7:15:29 AM PST by surely_you_jest
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"Let's wait and see what the Senate can produce"

Nothing but solid waste and hot air, thus far.


616 posted on 03/29/2006 11:10:08 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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House Majority Leader John A. Boehner refused yesterday to rule out compromising with the Senate to expand the House border security bill to include a guest-worker program or provisions that opponents call "amnesty."

"Let's wait and see what the Senate can produce,"

Another "yellow shirt" ready to cave if it will enhance "his" chance of not being targeted as a "not one of us" crowd!

How easy it is to be "a mess of pottage"(lintel soup)!

652 posted on 03/29/2006 11:27:11 AM PST by VOYAGER
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Last night I had dinner with friends in Buonos Aires. They all asked what I thought about Bush´s plan to build a wall to keep all foreigners(Mexicans) out. Sheesh.


683 posted on 03/29/2006 11:37:21 AM PST by Cementjungle
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I know the whereabouts of one of the last living descendants of the original grantees of the Berryessa Spanish land grant which predates Mexican rule. He should assert his title and obtain the wine country. I believe their are quite a few Verdugos still alive too, they predate Mexican rule also.


704 posted on 03/29/2006 11:47:45 AM PST by tertiary01 (Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
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I think the fix is in. "The Hammer" Tom Delay would never agree to amnesty.


782 posted on 03/29/2006 12:28:54 PM PST by freedom1st
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Any convertable visa program which includes citizenship is PURE AMNESTY.

Guest worker is just and only that GUEST. Guests go home to their country of origin.

This is about the US taxpayer providing money to these illegals as a foreign aid program.


797 posted on 03/29/2006 12:41:00 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Either the fix is in,

Yes, the fix is in. We are betrayed again. Imagine my surprise. NOT.

798 posted on 03/29/2006 12:41:42 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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Boner is the lobbyists' favorite new whore. Perhaps WalMart sent a few mil his way to get on the Amnesty train. He certainly raked in big bux from MBNA to slam through the Bankruptcy deform bill.


904 posted on 03/29/2006 1:58:11 PM PST by montag813
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If everyone on this site would just send one e-mail,fax or call we might make aa difference.


1,075 posted on 03/29/2006 3:07:08 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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If everyone on this site would just send one e-mail,fax or call we might make aa difference.


1,077 posted on 03/29/2006 3:07:21 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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Freakin politicians. I will sit out the vote if they take me for a chump. Screw each of them.

Bush should be impeached if he gets this through. Flame away!!!
1,215 posted on 03/29/2006 4:12:50 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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I have thought on the matter and concluded the fix has always been in. The plan has been well developed and a part has been assigned to all the players. The plan and the working through the plan is designed to minimize political damage to the incumbent Republicans while developinf solution to the problem.

The bifurcated problem requires dual action. There must be real border security. There must be a procedure for allowing conversion from illegal to legal.

The House bill and the Senate bill allow both.

The house incumbents require the most political cover. The incumbents must be allowed to strongly support a bill that is very strong in securing the border and dealing with those who enter in violation. This very strong piece of work allows those who voted for it to go home and boast they did their part. They actually put the rubber on the road and voted for a very strong bill.

The Senate does not have the same problem. Republican Senators have a little more lee way. Some can oppose the Senate bill if politically necessary or at least play with ammendments that make their effort vote worthy even if defeated. The Senate will deal with the manner in which Mexicans are allowed to stay as workers.

The President has had input and perhaps his people are quietly coordinating the total efort out of sight. I'm convinced that what appears to be a somewhat chaotic process is actually a carefully managed process to develop a solution while controlling potential political damage.

Power politics at its very best.


1,264 posted on 03/29/2006 4:30:57 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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Remember the FReepmail you sent me the other day--well, here's the perfect thread to get your answer as to who "those" FReepers are.

You'll spot 'em right away.

1,600 posted on 03/29/2006 7:03:02 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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ANY Politician who condones this
by lack of enforcing the law,
or censoring those who ignore
the law, is just as guilty as
treason as the persons
responsible of this disgrace
to the men and women who have
given their lives defending our flag!




03/28 : Student protest

Whittier area students from Pioneer, California
and Whittier high schools walked out of classes
to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006.

The protestors put up the Mexican flag
over the American flag flying upsidedown at Montebello High.

(Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)

http://lang.whittierdailynews.com/socal/gallery2/news/032806_SV_walk1/3.jpg

http://lang.whittierdailynews.com/socal/gallery2/news/032806_SV_walk4/3.jpg


1,621 posted on 03/29/2006 7:11:27 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It's ALWAYS a great day to be a Conservative Independent Voter AND a Viet Nam Vet)
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Placemark


1,702 posted on 03/29/2006 7:55:28 PM PST by randomnumber (I have no excuse for my behavior; do you?)
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PING--- WOOSIE REPUBLICANS


1,726 posted on 03/29/2006 8:16:06 PM PST by pointsal
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Yes to the fence - It should be the first priority

Yes to guest workers - We need to make illegal immigration more difficult and legal immigration easier.

Yes to greater criminalization - They are lawbreakers!

A pro-american, hard-working, capitalist-loving vietnamese who applies for a visa to come to the USA is told up front that he has less than a 5% chance of being accepted because the US is trying to absorb the millions of illegal mexicans. It needs to be easier than this in order to be able to have more control. Right now, it's almost impossible to enter the US legally. This only encourages lawbreakers (though I don't justify it). And yes, we need to be tough on illegals here already. They are lawbreakers.

I wonder if we really should punish businesses for hiring illegals. In one way I say yes but in another...is'nt it OUR GOVERNMENT who is responsible for keeping out illegals? Why punnish businesses in the USA for our government's failures?

Face it! We have enough legal trouble trying to jail terrorists. You really think we will deport 12 million illegals? REALITY CHECK! DUH!

LET'S BUILD A WALL NOW!

We have plenty of time to talk about what to do with those already here. Let's build the wall before we have 30 million illegals.

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1,734 posted on 03/29/2006 8:20:56 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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Group Hug?

1,747 posted on 03/29/2006 8:55:40 PM PST by woofie
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Cobarde.


1,771 posted on 03/29/2006 10:54:15 PM PST by onedoug
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BTTT


1,808 posted on 03/30/2006 7:11:31 AM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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