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'Galileo Was Wrong,' claims geocentrist writer
The Sun Herald ^ | Tue, Mar. 28, 2006 | DRU SEFTON

Posted on 03/28/2006 12:09:01 PM PST by orionblamblam

Bible proves Earth is center of universe, author argues The Earth is at the center of Robert Sungenis' universe. Literally.

Yours too, he says.

Sungenis is a geocentrist. He contends the sun orbits the Earth instead of vice versa. He says physics and the Bible show that the vastness of space revolves around us; that we're at the center of everything, on a planet that does not rotate.

He has just completed a 1,000-page tome, "Galileo Was Wrong," the first in a pair of books he hopes will persuade readers to "give Scripture its due place, and show that science is not all it's cracked up to be."

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For several years the Web site of his Catholic Apologetics International (www.catholicintl.com) offered a $1,000 reward to anyone who could disprove geocentrism and prove heliocentrism (a sun-centered solar system).

There were numerous attempts, Sungenis said, "some serious, some caustic," but no one did it to his satisfaction. "Most admitted it can't be proven." There's also no proof that the Earth rotates, he said. But what about Foucault's famous pendulum? Its plane of oscillation revolves every 24 hours, showing the rotation of the planet. If the Earth didn't rotate, it wouldn't oscillate.

Nope, Sungenis said: There just may be some other force propelling it, such as the pull of stars.

(Excerpt) Read more at sunherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bible; brainless; creationism; crevo; crevolist; design; galileo; id; idjunkscience; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; kookalert; tinfoilalert
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To: Dimensio

Is Mathematics a science?


141 posted on 03/28/2006 1:38:59 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: orionblamblam

Goofball. He better be careful he doesn't fall off the edge of the earth.


142 posted on 03/28/2006 1:40:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Antoninus

> If he's not an atheist, he certainly has a healthy interest in the subject

A lot of Creationists post often in Evolutiont hreads. Does that mean that these Creationists are Evolutionists?

I also post a lot about Muslims terrorism. Does that mean I'm a Muslim terrorist?

>his position is never supportive of the Christian/religious side.

Never? Huh. I've been quite supportive of Christians who see evolution as the mechanism that God used to create the diversity of life on Earth. But that doesn't fit in with your preconcieved notions, does it.

> Hey Orionblamblam: Do you believe in God?

Your God? Nope. Do I believe your God doesn't exist? Nope.

Hey Antoninus: Does that make me a "staunch atheist?"


143 posted on 03/28/2006 1:40:48 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: Tevin

"Kind of scary that heliocentrism can't be proven."

You mean other than the group pictures of the earth, sun, mars (in the far distance), and moon taken by Voyager (along with other such shots) on its way out to the outer planets?

Not to mention the other 1,000's of ways mentioned on this thread.


144 posted on 03/28/2006 1:41:08 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Tokra

Actually, any Coriolis phenomenon depends on earth's rotation, from water circling a drain to hurricanes (although the whole drain circling thing has been called into question more than once, since the distances covered are so small).

"Oh, it's getting late. The sun's going down."

"Ah, you're wrong. The horizon's moving up!"

- Firesign Theater.


145 posted on 03/28/2006 1:41:54 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Antoninus

> Baronius would have had no trouble saying "anathema sit" to your point of view.

And what would he have said to the idea that I could build a vehicle that could fly a man across a sea?


146 posted on 03/28/2006 1:42:20 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: scottdeus12

> That's the $56,000 question.

Who's paying?

More importantly: why the obsession?


147 posted on 03/28/2006 1:43:27 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: MeanWestTexan

It's been more than adequetely proven to me. I was just somewhat facetiosly responding to this "higher, relativist" hurdle of "proof."


148 posted on 03/28/2006 1:43:43 PM PST by Tevin
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To: Dimensio

Oh, and for the record, I'm a practicing Catholic, believe that the heliocentric theory best describes the operation of the solar system (as first defined by another devout Catholic by name of Copernicus), and believe that the ToE best describes the origin of species.


149 posted on 03/28/2006 1:43:56 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Elpasser
Spoken like a true evolutionist!

Actually, it is a fundamental truth of science, not just evolution.
150 posted on 03/28/2006 1:44:42 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Is Mathematics a science?

No.
151 posted on 03/28/2006 1:45:27 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

So it can't be proven that the Earth isn't flat?


152 posted on 03/28/2006 1:46:16 PM PST by Tevin
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To: Tevin

Got it.

You never know here, though.


153 posted on 03/28/2006 1:46:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Tevin

Actuall, Earth and sun orbit each other, but the center of their mutual rotation is somewhere within the sphere of the sun, due to the difference in mass and gravitation between the two.


154 posted on 03/28/2006 1:46:56 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: orionblamblam
Never? Huh. I've been quite supportive of Christians who see evolution as the mechanism that God used to create the diversity of life on Earth. But that doesn't fit in with your preconcieved notions, does it.

My "preconceived notions" are based entirely on your posting history--about 50% of which I have had the misfortune of reading when they were originally posted.

You have declared yourself an agnostic/objectivist on other threads. Why not just ditch the nonsense and come clean on this one, too?

No one will ever accuse me of being shy about my Catholicism....
155 posted on 03/28/2006 1:47:14 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Dimensio
I'll let the mathematicians amongst us debate that with you ...

But stipulating that, for the moment, you're quite right.

156 posted on 03/28/2006 1:47:38 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Satellite Tool Kit? OASYS? Not really in the same league.

Take a look at what STK 7 can do. (especially with VO, chains, connect, and astrogator) :-)

157 posted on 03/28/2006 1:47:52 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Saint Reagan

You're a rare person on FR: your kind-worded and open minded.


158 posted on 03/28/2006 1:48:14 PM PST by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: SlowBoat407

"Antelope Freeway one quarter mile, Antelope Freeway one eighth mile, Antelope Freeway one sixteenth mile......"


159 posted on 03/28/2006 1:48:34 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Yup. Orbit a common center of mass.


160 posted on 03/28/2006 1:48:50 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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