Senate Panel Approves Immigration Bill

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/27/06 | David Espo - ap

[NormsRevenge]

WASHINGTON - The Senate Judiciary Committee approved election-year immigration legislation Monday that clears the way for millions of undocumented workers to seek U.S. citizenship without having to first leave the country.

After days of street demonstrations that stretched from California to the gounds of the U.S. Capitol, the committee also voted to strip out proposed criminal penalties for residents found to be in this country illegally.

The panel's vote cleared the way for the full Senate to begin debate Tuesday on the emotional immigration issue.

"All Americans wanted fairness and they got it this evening," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), the Massachusetts Democrat who played a pivotal role in drafting the legislation, approved 12-6.

Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., voted for the bill but signaled that some of the provisions could well be changed by the full Senate.

In general, the bill is designed to strengtehn border patrol, create new opportunities for so-called guest workers and determine the legal future of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

At several critical popints, committee Democrats were united while Republicans splintered. In general, GOP Sens. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, Sam Brownback of Kansas and Mike DeWine of Ohio, who is seeking re-election this fall, sided with Democrats.

That gave Democrats a majority that allowed them to shape the bill to their liking.

[onyx]

LOL_ I believe you. I dont often listen to George Noory, (I think it's spelled differently). I like Art personally from the old days when his show was about politics. Never got "into" George's stuff.

[BigSkyFreeper]

First time I listened to Art Bell was back in 1989. In those days he was actually doing his show LIVE from 7:00p.m. West Coast time (7:00p.m. to Midnight was considered his pre-game show) until 6:00a.m. West Coast time.

[JeffAtlanta]

I'm not clear why you're on this forum.

Last I heard, this is a CONSERVATIVE forum, not a Republican party forum or a Bush forum.

Aren't you staying at home or voting democrat or third party?

Why do you continue to lie? Where did I say that i was staying home, voting democrat or third party? In fact, I have told you several times that intend to do none of those things.

Seriously, why are you so threatened that you have to resort to lying? I have told you many times that Republicans that govern like democrats don't get my vote. Unless you think that EVERY Republican governs as a Democrat then why would I stay home?

I specifically noted that I liked the job my representative is doing and will vote for him. Again, how is that staying home, voting democrat or third party? Have you ever considered that there are local elections as well?

[Will_Zurmacht]

also, just to pipe in....I'm not so sure the rallies were a good thing.

They set me off today, and some of the folks I spoke with were in a similar mood.
One friend put it bluntly when he said
"If they can block traffic and march in LA, then they can certainly keep marching their angry @sses back to Mexico".

I would submit that the images of screaming thugs waving Mexican flags did little to help the cause of the "poor illegals."

[onyx]

Art used to broadcast from atop Jackie Gaughn's Union Plaza in LV at KDWN, 720AM on the dial.

[Mo1]

I should have figured...if they can reach this far, to an otherwise sleepy, generally conservative area, then it seems we all have reason for concern.

Immigration is a serious issue that needs to be fixed

But the left is also taking full advantage and exploiting it for all the can get

IMO .. level headed and clear thinking is what's needed on our side

The left has been watching us for some time and they know exactly what buttons to push

[Serenissima Venezia]

Where are they now? Where are all the border state rallies? Where are the Tancredo fans? What we did then doesn't matter now. Gore does not equal immigration. If I was there, I'd be in the thick of it. All I see is keyboard commandos and their rhetoric. Typing isn't going to do anything.

They were busy working and going to school today. They don't just take off work and avoid their responsibilities at the drop of a hat to go join a mob. Mob rule works in the 3rd world countries, and that's why the illegals think it should work here.

But, what conservatives were doing is contacting their congressmen and letting their opinions known, as is done in a civilized society. I tried to call my Senators - both in Washingon and all their Ca numbers. All lines were busy all day long. And the website email for the Senators was so bogged down that even that didn't work.

The Minutement will be patroling the borders all of April. In an organized, civilized manner. With trained volunteers who have been checked and cleared to be there. They are doing a job, not just getting frenzied media attention.

Do you really want us to act like the screaming mobs we saw on TV? I was embarassed for their ignorance and their stupidity, even if they didn't realize how they looked and talked. From the interviews on radio and TV, most didn't even know why they were out there.

[onyx]

Don't call me a liar!
I "asked" you questions.
I did not state facts.
Please don't flatter yourself --- I do not read your posts.

You'll have to engage someone else. I am not interested in anything you have to say.

[JeffAtlanta]

I would submit that the images of screaming thugs waving Mexican flags did little to help the cause of the "poor illegals."

I agree. If anything, it energized the rest of the country who aren't globalists and believe in national sovereignty against the illegals.

The senators could have easily pointed to the mayhem that the illegals caused as evidence that the situation has become dangerous.

[moehoward]

To learn English.

[Dolphy]

Noory responded to an email of mine before the war and told me, in no uncertain terms, that we wouldn't find WMD in Iraq.

[freedumb2003]

And if you're in the frontlines, why didn't your rally 500,000 counter protesters?

They saw yours and decided to let you run the day.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Art used to broadcast from atop Jackie Gaughn's Union Plaza in LV at KDWN, 720AM on the dial.

Yep! Before I went to college in the summer of 1989, I was listening to the audio feed of his show on the big backyard dish. I like having the radio on at night when I am in bed, so when I was in college, I'd listen to him on 910 KBLG (Billings, MT). Nowadays, I listen to his show on 1110 KFAB Omaha.

[JeffAtlanta]

Please don't flatter yourself --- I do not read your posts.

So you're saying that you post to me and ask a question, don't read the reply, and then just imply that I answered the way you want to hear.

[Mo1]

also, just to pipe in....I'm not so sure the rallies were a good thing.

I agree .. pictures can speak a thousand words

and not all of them will be good

[OKIEDOC]

Sen. Specter (R-PA)
Sen. Graham (R-SC)
Sen. Brownback (R-KS)
Sen. DeWine (R-OH)


Misguided Senators.

Just Say no to More Immigration and More Problems in America.

[Dolphy]

If anything, it energized the rest of the country who aren't globalists and believe in national sovereignty against the illegals.

How are they energized? Will they be holding similar demonstrations?

[JeffAtlanta]

They don't just take off work and avoid their responsibilities at the drop of a hat to go join a mob. Mob rule works in the 3rd world countries, and that's why the illegals think it should work here.

Good post. Mob rule is exactly what will get soon if the brakes aren't put on this situation.

[onyx]

I answered your silly question to me with questions of my own and you went ballistic. I am literally doubled over laughing at you. You needn't concern yourself why I am here. I have been here before you found this forum and I will likely be here long after you depart.

Some of us actually work on campaigns together and attend FR events and FReeps.

[Petronski]

In Specter's case, the 'R' stands for Rasshole.