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Germans are brainiest - but at least we're smarter than the French (London Times)
TIMES Online ^ | March 27, 2006 | Helen Nugent

Posted on 03/27/2006 1:35:38 AM PST by wolf78

BRITAIN and France have experienced long periods of conflict and rivalry but now victory in one area can be claimed: Britons are more intelligent than the French.

A new European league of IQ scores has ranked the British in eighth place, well above the French, who were 19th. According to Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster, Britons have an average IQ of 100. The French scored 94. But it is not all good news. Top of the table were the Germans, with an IQ of 107. The British were also beaten by the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Austria and Switzerland.

Professor Lynn, who caused controversy last year by claiming that men were more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, said that populations in the colder, more challenging environments of Northern Europe had developed larger brains than those in warmer climates further south. The average brain size in Northern and Central Europe is 1,320cc and in southeast Europe it is 1,312cc. “The early human beings in northerly areas had to survive during cold winters when there were no plant foods and they were forced to hunt big game,” he said. “The main environmental influence on IQ is diet, and people in southeast Europe would have had less of the proteins, minerals and vitamins provided by meat which are essential for brain development.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: austria; balkans; belgium; bulgaria; czechrepublic; denmark; eu; europe; finland; france; germany; greece; hungary; intelligence; iq; ireland; italy; netherlands; norway; poland; romania; russia; serbia; spain; sweden; switzerland; turkey; uk
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To: Churchillspirit

Who said I way referring to the poll? Wrong assumption on your end.


81 posted on 03/27/2006 1:58:55 PM PST by Pro-Bush (One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.)
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To: goldstategop

Like I keep saying..all the smart Frenchmen moved to the US over 200 years ago. ;)


82 posted on 03/27/2006 2:12:38 PM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Michael81Dus; jla

By definition, arrogance is that you say that you are superior but you aren't. Saying that it is better here and the reality matches it is not being arrogant: it is just stating a fact.

For instance, when I say that the air transport system in the United States is much better than Russia, or when I state Confucian practice of honouring your parents is superior tio typically Western ways, it isn't arrogance. The truth is self-evident, as America's founders would say, you can't deny or escape from that points.


83 posted on 03/27/2006 5:27:49 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Pro-Bush
Sorry, thought your post was relevant to this thread.

My mistake.

84 posted on 03/27/2006 6:24:41 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: NZerFromHK

Do you know the term Überheblichkeit? That´s exactly what was shown here. Unfortunately, the English language doesn´t have the same amount of words we have.


85 posted on 03/27/2006 10:30:38 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
My spouse is part German. What I have found of my German in-laws is that the intelligence they have gets canceled by their donkey stubbornness. There isn't a test for that!!!

(Sorry..just had to say it!) LOL!

86 posted on 03/27/2006 10:45:36 PM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Michael81Dus; ila

I think by New Zealand standards some would say the American posters are being cheeky but it definitely isn't arrogance. And in my native Hong Kong - a society that treats business, work, successes and failures in a very American way - it wouldn't be considered cheeky at all. There are too Cantonese terms for cheeky - one is a milder term "nga chak" and the other very serious degoratory term "chuen" (while arrogance is literally translated as "hiu cheung"). They may be guilty of "nga chak-ness" but a far way off from "hiu cheung".


87 posted on 03/27/2006 10:49:42 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK

IQ stories are like sex and fishing stories, everyone lies....


88 posted on 03/27/2006 10:53:04 PM PST by snoringbear
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To: NZerFromHK
Imagine a situation: a rich man comes to his poor neighbor and starts talking about his wealth: how many limousines he has, how many yachts etc. And it's not empty bragging - he's really rich. Is it an example of arrogance? I don't know. My English is not so good, there may be another term for that. It may be sensitivity gap or something else. Any suggestions?
89 posted on 03/27/2006 11:51:35 PM PST by Alex-DV ("Vladivostok is far but it's our city" (V. Ulyanov))
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To: wolf78

LOL....I love this stuff.

Any bloodletting yet?


90 posted on 03/27/2006 11:54:39 PM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: Alex-DV

In that case, there is no point to deny that the rich has cars, etc. If he downplays that (i.e. being "sensitive"), other people will say he is being false humble. In other words, d***ed if you do, and d***ed if you don't.


91 posted on 03/27/2006 11:57:50 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Pro-Bush

Well, while we are being taken over by third world countries grasping at the 'coming here for a better life, YOURS' Yeah I guess we are smart, NOT...

America is declining. Look at what is happening on the news. Protests nationwide for illegal immigrants. Sorry, I don't buy that...


92 posted on 03/27/2006 11:58:47 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: CatoRenasci; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Father of soon to be five.

Take my word for it that intelligence as well as all other personality traits are inherited at least to some degree.

This preposterous notion of late that it's all nurture and that by nature we are all the same is utter nonsense.


93 posted on 03/28/2006 12:01:59 AM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: familyop; SJackson; okie01; Dog Gone; goldstategop; Clemenza; Unam Sanctam; Jeff Head; Tolik; ...

"Imagine a situation: a rich man comes to his poor neighbor and starts talking about his wealth: how many limousines he has, how many yachts etc. And it's not empty bragging - he's really rich. Is it an example of arrogance? I don't know. My English is not so good, there may be another term for that. It may be sensitivity gap or something else. Any suggestions?"

Some foreigners use this as an excuse to justify anti-Americanism - I'm not saying that Alex-DV does so, just that he is reporting what some think. As Americans, do you think this excuse of anti-Americanism is justified and why or why not?


94 posted on 03/28/2006 12:03:56 AM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I don't doubt Asjkenazim Jews are damned smart but their political choices predominately as a group over the years have often been not so smart.

which makes me wonder if IQ is a cure all?

in some environments like prison or an apocalypse, brawn or marksmanship might be preferred


95 posted on 03/28/2006 12:05:36 AM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: Grzegorz 246

You can be successful with a good average because large projects and companies always desperately need a performing middle. You can't make everything fool proof.

A good elite plus some jerks make a good team for short term success in brand new fields.

If you want to ride a long ramp-up or a long economic cycle you need an organisation based on clever individuals.


96 posted on 03/28/2006 12:06:53 AM PST by globalheater (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare - Sun Tzu)
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To: television is just wrong
Well at least we aren't being overrun with Muslim (AQ sympathizers) like the EU countries, UK and Scotland!

Not like MeCHa or LULAC rebels are much better though!
97 posted on 03/28/2006 12:08:21 AM PST by Pro-Bush (One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.)
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To: Pro-Bush; wardaddy; CatoRenasci

Ping! I'm interested to see your take on post 94, thanks.


98 posted on 03/28/2006 12:10:10 AM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: wolf78

Germans are brainiest - Then someone explain the Hasselhoff infatuation....on second thought, don't explain it.

99 posted on 03/28/2006 12:11:45 AM PST by Troublemaker
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To: Vectorian

Only in the liberal controlled cities...LOL!


100 posted on 03/28/2006 12:11:53 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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