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America takes side of Israel
Boston Globe ^ | March 26, 2006 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 03/26/2006 2:14:49 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

A GALLUP POLL released last month puts American support for Israel at near-record levels. When asked for their views on the Middle East, 59 percent of Americans say they sympathize with the Israelis, while just 15 percent favor the Palestinians. Pro-Israel sentiment rises with increased knowledge -- 66 percent of those who follow international affairs ''very closely" support Israel, compared with 52 percent of those who don't pay close attention to foreign news.

Other findings are comparable. More than two-thirds of Americans say their overall view of Israel is favorable. Only 11 percent, by contrast, have a favorable opinion of the Palestinian Authority. While 22 percent of the public wants Washington to conduct diplomatic relations with the Hamas-controlled Palestinian government even if it refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state, 44 percent say recognition of Israel must be a precondition to relations with the United States. Another 25 percent -- one American in four -- oppose any US dealings with Hamas at all.

Staunch American support for Israel is nothing new. In February 2005, Gallup reported similarly lopsided findings -- 69 percent of the public viewed Israel favorably, 25 percent unfavorably. In 2004, when Israel was being denounced in Europe and the United Nations for its assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the leader of Hamas, 61 percent of Americans said Israel was justified in killing him. In 2002, when a CBS News poll asked whether Israel's actions against Yasser Arafat and his forces were equivalent to US actions against Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, 59 percent agreed that they were.

In short, solidarity with Israel is an abiding feature of American public opinion. Because the American people are pro-Israel, the American government is pro-Israel.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: duh; harvard; iran; israel; jacoby; lebanon; middleeast; poll; proisrael; waronterror; zionism
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To: Joe Boucher

You said -- "even when they spy on us? Even when they shoot the hell out of a U.S. Navel vessel? Even when they sell American technology to the Chi-coms?
I support Israel too but at times DAMN."

Well, with Israel, you're either on God's side or the Devil's side. That's what it amounts to. And God has promised to take care of His own, including any of the wrongs that they've done. That's why they were scattered throughout the world for all this time.

But, now is their gathering back time and now is the time that God has chosen to put them back in the land and now is the time that God is preparing for His Son to return to rule and reign from Israel, over the whole world.

You're not going to go anywhere by opposing God on this one.

Regards,
Star Traveler


21 posted on 03/26/2006 4:12:13 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: SkyPilot
Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, and not once in the Koran.

Then there is no basis for muslims to call it one of their holy places, except for the fantasy story, "The Night Journey."

For those who are interested in what the Arabs are saying to each other, about America, Israel, islam and other subjects, go here for video clips:

http://www.memritv.org/subjects.asp

Fascinating stuff, and I've spent hours there.

22 posted on 03/26/2006 4:13:00 AM PST by Max in Utah
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To: Joe Boucher

I find it interesting that the ship that was shot up was an American ship spying on Israel. That it was attacked AFTER America was asked if we had a ship in that position and WE told them no, there were no American ships in that area.

This during a war with Egypt.

Not that the hypocracy is that exciting, just perhaps stunning.

In fact, the pilots sent to sink the ship did not, because it was flying an American flag and something did not look right. The ship did not match the description of the Egyptian ship that they thought it was. The high moral standards of the IAF saved those sailors lives, the ability of men to rightfully disobey orders in the field is a sign of free nations. Any other nation in the entire Middle East would have followed orders right or wrong.

As for the sale of military goods to China, the goods sold were spare parts and upgrades for a UAV that American had given given prior PERMISSION to sell.

You want a conspiracy? Ask yourself why military supplys were threatend to be cut off from Israel over this non issue until the middle of the evacuation of Gaza.

Its called Blackmail.

It looks like Israel was forced to surrender some of its land to the Jihadi by American Interests in high places. Saudi Arabia's Road Map will be followed, or you will walk to work...

Some of that sticky feeling on your hands is not oil, it is blood.


23 posted on 03/26/2006 5:45:37 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Max in Utah
Speaking of those video clips, here's the transcript of one:

Palestinian Friday Sermon by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris:
Muslims Will Rule America and Britain, Jews Are a Virus Resembling AIDS

The following are excerpts from a Friday sermon on Palestinian Authority TV. The preacher is Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris. PA TV aired this sermon on May 13, 2005

Ibrahim Mudeiris: Allah has tormented us with "the people most hostile to the believers" – the Jews. "Thou shalt find that the people most hostile to the believers to be the Jews and the polytheists." Allah warned His beloved Prophet Muhammad about the Jews, who had killed their prophets, forged their Torah, and sowed corruption throughout their history.

With the establishment of the state of Israel, the entire Islamic nation was lost, because Israel is a cancer spreading through the body of the Islamic nation, and because the Jews are a virus resembling AIDS, from which the entire world suffers.

You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations.

Ask Britain what it did to the Jews in the early sixth century. What did they do to the Jews? They expelled them, tortured them, and prevented them from entering Britain for more than 300 years. All this was because of what the Jews did in Britain. Ask France what it did to the Jews. They tortured them, expelled them, and burned their Talmud, because of the civil strife the Jews wanted to spark in France, in the days of Louis XIX. Ask Portugal what it did to the Jews. Ask Czarists Russia, which welcomed the Jews, who plotted to kill the Czar - so he massacred them. But don't ask Germany what it did to the Jews. It was the Jews who provoked Nazism to wage war against the entire world, when the Jews, using the Zionist movement, got other countries to wage an economic war on Germany and to boycott German merchandise. They provoked Russia, Britain, France, and Italy. This enraged the Germans toward the Jews, leading to the events of those days, which the Jews commemorating today.

But they are committing worse deeds than those done to them in the Nazi war. Yes, perhaps some of them were killed and some burned, but they are inflating this in order to win over the of the media and gain the world's sympathy. The worst crimes in history were committed against the Jews, yet these crimes are no worse than what the Jews are doing in Palestine. What was done to the Jews was a crime, but isn't what the Jews are doing today in the land of Palestine not a crime?!

Look at modern history. Where has Great Britain gone? Where has Czarist Russia gone? Where has France gone - France, which almost ruled the entire world? Where is Nazi Germany, which massacred millions and ruled the world? Where did all these superpowers go? He who made them disappear will make America disappear too, God willing. He who made Russia disappear overnight is capable of making America disappear and fall, Allah willing.

We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world – except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew.

If this represents what the Palestinians generally believe, then there is no hope of making peace with them. Even if they gave up all of Israel they could still expect a final holocaust someday, if the islamists ever achieve their goal of world domination.
24 posted on 03/26/2006 5:56:31 AM PST by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking the keyword or topic Israel.

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25 posted on 03/26/2006 6:06:16 AM PST by SJackson ([Iraq] Reconstruction isn’t news is it? Chris Matthews)
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To: West Coast Conservative; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; ...









If you'd like to be on or off this
Christian Supporters of Israel ping list,
please FR mail me ~
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MikeFromFR ~
There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had
spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass. (Joshua 21:45)

Letter To The President In Support Of Israel ~
'Final Solution,' Phase 2 ~
Warnings ~


"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets...."—Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
The Holocaust Chronicle ~

The future of Arab controlled Gaza.

"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."—FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
The Nature Of Bruce ~

26 posted on 03/26/2006 7:36:08 AM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
In February 2005, Gallup reported similarly lopsided findings --

Chiding from the Glob toward the American public. No matter, we stand firm in our support of Israel.

27 posted on 03/26/2006 7:42:33 AM PST by prairiebreeze (I'm a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: SkyPilot

Plus Harold Pinter for literature in 2005... Ashamed as I am to admit it.


28 posted on 03/26/2006 8:33:38 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Joe Boucher

The real story of the U.S.S. Liberty will never be told.


29 posted on 03/26/2006 8:36:42 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SkyPilot

Also in physics: Claude Cohen-Tannoudji (1997), Zhores Ivanovich Alferov (2000), and David J. Gross (2004).


30 posted on 03/26/2006 8:42:52 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Max in Utah
Ask France what it did to the Jews. They tortured them, expelled them, and burned their Talmud, because of the civil strife the Jews wanted to spark in France, in the days of Louis XIX.

Louis XIX???
31 posted on 03/26/2006 8:44:43 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: SkyPilot

Medicine: Eric R. Kandel (2000) and H. Robert Horvitz (2002).


32 posted on 03/26/2006 8:49:08 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: SkyPilot

Medicine again: Stanley B. Prusiner (1997)


33 posted on 03/26/2006 8:50:15 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: SkyPilot

Sydney Brenner Medicine 2002... I started out in Wikipedia, now I'm reading the autobiographies at nobelprize.org


34 posted on 03/26/2006 8:52:15 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: SkyPilot

Economics: Daniel Kahneman (2002)... Okay enough for now.


35 posted on 03/26/2006 8:57:19 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Echo Talon
I feel the same about our own country. I love it 100% of the time, but I do not thank Bill Clinton and his buddies at Loral for their transfer of missile technology to our Chinese enemies. So basically, maybe Israel has the same problem we do: people who don't want it to happen, but governments that think making a buck supercedes national security. Kind of like our leaders now (with few laudible exceptions) who want to do the amnesty thing for illegal aliens (I am going to refuse to use the word "immigrant" from now on).
36 posted on 03/26/2006 9:01:31 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: rightwingcrazy

No, Americans are too smart to see through the moral equivalency of the people who want to sidle up to Islam for the sake of a tank of gas. "Fortress America" is now impossible. Technology has made it so. Get your head out of the sand.


37 posted on 03/26/2006 9:05:00 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: sageb1

Again, I support Israel, there are some things though I just can't condone.


38 posted on 03/26/2006 9:52:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: American in Israel

Not how I've heard the story told about the ship pal.
But you are mostly accurate as to the blackmail of gaza. Don't think Israel should gie up an inch. Especially to the palis.
If they give up the golan, Israel is a gonner.


39 posted on 03/26/2006 9:59:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Star Traveler

I believe in Jesus.

I am an American.

I support Israel in nearly every circumstance but not blindly. Like every country Israel is run by humans and humans are falable.


40 posted on 03/26/2006 10:02:45 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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