Posted on 03/25/2006 3:06:09 PM PST by Boston Blackie
We are not a "nation of immigrants." This is both a factual error and a warm-and-fuzzy non sequitur. Eighty-five percent of the residents currently in the United States were born here. Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a "nation of immigrants."
(Isn’t it funny, by the way, how the politically correct multiculturalists who claim we are a “nation of immigrants” are sooo insensitive toward Native American Indians, Native Alaskans, Native Hawaiians, and descendants of black slaves who did not “immigrate” here in any common sense of the word?)
Even if we were a “nation of immigrants,” it does not explain why we should be against sensible immigration control.
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Make that sister. :o)
Amen sista!
Dane is a hopeless case. According to her definition of "family values", many murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists, etc would be okidokie by her.
"....giving 12 million people whose first action on U.S. soil was breaking the law automatic citizenship."
- Ah, another gentleman with the "cattle cars to Mexico" solution.
As to automatic citizenship - I don't think that was ever a part of Bush's plan but even if it were, it wouldn't be the first time that the US has granted blanket amnesty to illegal immigrants. It's been done more than once in the past, but probably by Democratic Presidents, which is why it never received much media attention.
In my opinion, the only way to at least slow down the number of illegal immigrants would be to impose massive fines or even prison terms for company officials who are caught employing undocumented workers.
There has been a stand off between the locals and feds. It is mostly about money. Locals want to be paid by the feds. They are supposed to work together, but feds have not had the capacity to handle their end, so jails get backed up.
Aha! Someone who knows what he is talking about. Hooray.
That's your answer to what you think californians should do? Of course I would have called them had I had a slam dunk, proof beyond a reasonable doubt case. So the question, again: What would you have Californians do about a wholly federal issue?
Californians have to get together in their communities and decide on what they want and how to work with state and federal authorities. Because you have not done that you have scared all of the politicians in the country. You always say that the country needs to help you or else we will get your problems, too. If you weren't such a bunch of fruits and nuts you wouldn't have such cooties.
My solution is to enforce pre-existing laws, which REPUBLICAN administrations, and Republican Congresses have willfully disregarded because they conflict with their desire to have an endless supply of cheap labor.
The reason over half of Mexico-over forty million people-believe they have the right to come to the United States is because of Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush, and his son, who is the worst of the bunch, bar none.
To foist blame for this problem onto Democratic politicians is not only misleading, it's irresponsible.
Mr, Bush, we are also
-a nation of taxpayers
-a nation of law abiding taxpayers
-a nation of law abiding taxpayers who do not want the USA to turn into a third world nation
-a nation of law abiding taxpayers who do not want the USA to turn into a third world nation and believe in nationalism (America First), not Mexico first.
If you do not believe these core beliefs then resign the presidency.
They're probably too busy helping to organize the protests...
Insults aside, prop 187 was voided by the feds. What has any other state done, including Florida?
Dane said: Let's define "family values".
http://www.esrresearch.com/
by Economic Consultants
Edwin S. Rubenstein
President
We all know that Hispanic immigrants are going to turn into conservative Republicans because of their “Hispanic Family Values.” We know this because the Wall Street Journal Editorial Page keeps telling us so.
Unfortunately, what we know has this unfortunate drawback: it’s not true.
Overall, Hispanics show a significantly higher level of social pathology than American whites. There are even signs that, as a group, Hispanics may displace American blacks and form a new underclass.
Illegitimacy rates: unmarried Hispanic women aged 15-44 are about one-third again as likely to have a child as unmarried black women in that age bracket – 93.4 per 1,000 vs. 71.5 - and more than three times as an unmarried white women (27.9 per 1,000). [Source: Centers For Disease Control, pdf file]
Abortion: Hispanic women are two and a half times more likely to have abortions than white women (33 per 1,000 annually vs. 13) and nearly-two thirds as likely as black women (49). [Source: Guttmacher Institute]
Teenage pregnancy: Hispanics are high (about 94 per 1,000 vs. 32 for whites) and relatively worsening – they’ve now surpassed blacks (83 per 1,000). [Source: Centers For Disease Control, pdf file]
Dependency: Nearly one-third (30.6%) of Hispanics receive means-tested benefits, compared to less than a tenth (9.2%) of non-Hispanic whites and just over a third (35.0%) of blacks. [Source: U.S. Census, pdf file]
Criminality: just over one in every hundred adult male Hispanics (1.2%) was imprisoned in 2001 – almost a third of the non-Hispanic black rate (3.5%) and well over twice the non-Hispanic white rate (0.5%). [Source: Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, 2001, pdf file]
Risky behavior: The Hispanic death rate from HIV disease is 2.5-times that of whites (7 per 100,000 vs. 2.8), and about one-third of the black rate (24). [National Center For Health Statistics, pdf file]
If current trends (and immigration policies) continue, Hispanics will clearly soon replace blacks as America’s most disadvantaged ethnic group. On some key indicators they are already in last place.
In 2001, for example, Hispanic median income ($16,705) was nearly a tenth below the corresponding figure for blacks ($18,437) and a quarter below white median income ($22,418). As recently as 1992 Hispanic median income exceeded that of blacks. Back in the mid-1970s, Hispanic median income was nearly 20% larger than the black median. [Source: U.S. Census.]
Education seems unlikely to help Hispanic acculturation. Just over half (56.5%) Hispanics over 25 had a high school degree or more, compared to nearly nine-tenths (88.7%) of whites and nearly four-fifths (79.5%) of blacks. [Source: Digest of Education Statistics 2002, pdf file, my calculations]
Younger Hispanics show no sign of catching up. They are four times more likely to be without a high school degree than young whites, and 2.1 times more likely than young blacks.
This relative underperformance is persistent. Buried in Supplemental Table 3.3b in the Department of Education’s recently issued Status And Trends in the Education of Hispanics [pdf file] is the interesting information that second-generation Hispanics aged 16-24 are nearly twice as likely to drop out of high school as other second-generation immigrants (15.9% vs. 8.2%).
In other words, some immigrants are better than others. In fact, some Hispanic immigrants are better than others, or at least different. For example, Mexican-American women are estimated [pdf file] to average 3.32 births over their lifetimes, versus only 1.7 births for Cuban-Americans.
Which suggests that, rationally, immigration policy should distinguish on the basis of national origin – exactly the much-denounced principle repudiated by the influx-unleashing 1965 Immigration Act.
LOL....nice wit there MM
Emos don't let facts stand in their way.
In case you didn't know many of the identity hustlers here are minorities with a chip on their shoulders
but in the interest of nuance it should be noted that many minorities on FR are quiet about it
Just visiting at the Convention Center for the weekend.
Nice town you have here. I left the big city for Fargo 4 years ago, and small towns are safe and nice but less interesting.
The bums are certainly more of a concern crime-wise than the illegals. Pretty sure I could beat them up or outrun them in either case.
Where in CA are you? I spent seven years in Palo Alto 61-68, and CA was very different then. Asking what other states have done is still punting, you know. Other states are doing things. The situations are different. South Florida is democratic sanctuary city mentality. It is hard to find anyone speaking English in Miami. But the Spanish speakers are not Mexican. We have lots of refugees from Haiti, Cuba, and now Venezuela. How many Floridians have you seen or heard threatening the rest of the country saying that they have to help us or we will be sending our problems your direction?
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