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1 posted on 03/24/2006 11:24:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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The Reuters report:

Pentagon report says Russia gave Iraq intelligence

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Pentagon report says Russia gave Iraq intelligence

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Russia provided intelligence to Iraq's government in the opening days of the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, including information that fed Iraqi suspicions that the main U.S. invasion force coming from Kuwait was actually a diversion, a Pentagon report released on Friday stated.

The report said an April 2, 2003, document from the Iraqi minister of foreign affairs to President Saddam Hussein stated that Russian intelligence had reported information on American troops plans to the Iraqis through the Russian ambassador.

The intelligence, the document stated, was that the American forces were moving to cut off Baghdad from the south, east and north, that U.S. bombing would concentrate on Baghdad and that the assault on Baghdad would not begin before around April 15.

In fact, Baghdad fell about a week before that date.

"Significantly, the regime was also receiving intelligence from the Russians that fed suspicions that the attack out of Kuwait was merely a diversion," the report stated.

The revelations were contained in a report by the U.S. military's Joint Forces Command assessing the events in the opening months of the war.


2 posted on 03/24/2006 11:28:20 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just goes to show you how intelligent the Russians are. Like we weren't going to find out? What will we do? Probably nothing.......
3 posted on 03/24/2006 11:28:59 AM PST by b4its2late (There are good terrorists.............. DEAD ONES.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort"

With enemies like this, who needs friends!

6 posted on 03/24/2006 11:33:16 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Russians are still scum.


8 posted on 03/24/2006 11:34:31 AM PST by GEC
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How many Americans died as a result?

Why should we not given the Chechen freedom fighters intel on Russian army movements?

Russia is our enemy.


9 posted on 03/24/2006 11:36:46 AM PST by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But the Dems were braying for more partners to help us. Would the French have betrayed us this way? Oops, stupid question.
12 posted on 03/24/2006 11:41:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
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Wonder if the ambassador had dinner with Jay Rockefeller?


15 posted on 03/24/2006 11:46:22 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Today, on another thread, I addressed the incompetence of the MSM media - this is perfect example, made even more so because it is by an "expert" MSM writer (the "AP Military Writer"):

"U.S. military also erred"
"U.S. officials believed Iraq would set its oil wells on fire as part of a scorched-earth policy, and the invasion plan was constructed in ways meant to get U.S. troops to the southern oil wells before they could be torched. The new report said, however, that while captured Iraqi documents show that there were plans made at the regional or local level to destroy the northern and southern oil wells, Saddam had expressly forbidden it."

Mr. AP "Military Writer", please tell me how long it would take Saddam to "unforbid" torching the oil wells and to transmit that order via radio? Five seconds? Forty seconds?

Now tell me how long it would take to determine that he had made the "unforbid" decision and to put forces in place to protect the wells?

18 posted on 03/24/2006 11:48:38 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whether by chance or design, one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort. By telling Saddam that the main attack on Baghdad would not begin until the Army's 4th Infantry Division arrived around April 15, the Russians reinforced an impression that U.S. commanders were trying to create to catch the Iraqis by surprise.

I all can say it that Allah must have been ticked off with Saddam Hussein.

"All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

19 posted on 03/24/2006 11:49:19 AM PST by george wythe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This was known during the opening weeks of the war, was it not? Russian advisors on hand, including those in the ... er ... "diplomatic" convoy of trucks heading for Syria, had to be evacuated and their safety assured before American action could be taken, regardless of their nefarious reasons for being there in the first place.

Russia is NOT our friend (the president's view to Putin's soul notwithstanding).

20 posted on 03/24/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nice.

I'm sure this will be a minor story in our MSM.

They have bigger pressing stories. (sarcasm)


21 posted on 03/24/2006 11:52:42 AM PST by Red6
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Holy @#$% ping.

Sooner..or later..it may all come out...how our "allies" were subverting our attempt to make Saddam behave.


24 posted on 03/24/2006 11:55:19 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; b4its2late; Wristpin; Cyclone59; LZ_Bayonet; Gay State Conservative; GEC; ...
Whether by chance or design, one piece of Russian intelligence actually contributed to an important U.S. military deception effort. By telling Saddam that the main attack on Baghdad would not begin until the Army's 4th Infantry Division arrived around April 15, the Russians reinforced an impression that U.S. commanders were trying to create to catch the Iraqis by surprise.

Sounds like the Russians were helping is out - no wonder Bush was so chummy with Putin after the invasion on Putin's trip to Washington.

What I find laughable is with such a 'wink-wink' line added in the people here are all upset and can't read between the lines. I guess Saddam was not the only one fooled by this feint.

Remember - Russia was also trying to negotiate into getting Saddam to step down and go into exile in Jordan and this was probably a way to scare him into going.

Putin also warned Bush about planned attacks on America by Saddam after 9/11.

26 posted on 03/24/2006 11:59:15 AM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From PalestineFacts.org:
Under "Military Provocation By Arab Countries and Soviet Disinformation"

Here's an excerpt:
At the same time, and unknown to the Israelis, the Soviet Union mounted a disinformation campaign pushing Egypt to join Syria against Israel. At that time, the Soviets were providing military and economic aid to both Syria and Egypt. On May 13, 1967 a Soviet parliamentary delegation visited Cairo and informed the Egyptian leaders that Israel had concentrated eleven to thirteen brigades along the Syrian border in preparation for an assault within a few days, with the intention of overthrowing the revolutionary Syrian Government. This was a complete fabrication designed by the Soviets to destabilize the Middle East. Similar false information may have been given to Egypt by the Soviets as early as May 2.


How could we go about diplomatically and effectively persuading a country to abandon some of the more destructive kinds of nationalist practices? I don't know. It's a difficult problem, if that country was once the host and benefactor of a large empire.
31 posted on 03/24/2006 12:05:48 PM PST by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; ...
Confirmed by the Pentagon (I love it when a plan comes together)

Pentagon: Russia Gave Saddam U.S. Intel

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

Also here

Documents from the Harmony Database

34 posted on 03/24/2006 12:10:19 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And W looked in his eyes and saw..........what?


38 posted on 03/24/2006 12:22:31 PM PST by Bret
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Russia (Putin) is really starting to tick me off.


42 posted on 03/24/2006 12:29:14 PM PST by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dow Jones newswire now saying Russia got the info from US Central Command. This is treason.


43 posted on 03/24/2006 12:29:21 PM PST by spyone
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No surprise....here....


47 posted on 03/24/2006 12:33:22 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Probably Rmzaj work. http://www.google.ru/search?hl=en&q=ramzaj+Iraq&btnG=Google+Search


59 posted on 03/24/2006 1:15:18 PM PST by RusIvan
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