"Gort, Klaatu islama nuko"
Posted on 03/23/2006 1:23:54 PM PST by jmc1969
Senior Muslim clerics demanded Thursday that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."
"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.
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These people are savages.
Why did we free them?
They don't know what to do with freedom.
which one...is which?
New leadership usually rises from within, not without. (OBL in Afghanistan was an anomoly).
Nation-building worked in Japan and Germany after WW2 because they were civilized, technologically sophisticated, first-world nations whose tribal feuds were long over. It should've been obvious that it cannot work in an environment where Islam thrives, but folks are beginning to catch on.
Islamics comprehend only strength, and view our attempts at "winning hearts and minds" as weakness. Sensing weakness, they're less likely to go along with the master plan out of a lack of respect. So all we can really do is keep destroying threatening regimes (without policing them for years after the fact) until they comprehend the situation -- join the civilized world or die.
It's them or us.
"what do you think separates Christianity from Islam, einstein?"
According to Winston Churchill, technology and science. I suggest his book The River War.
If we could but strip out Roman stupidity from Islam it would be only half bad.
The invisible hand spewed:
"How about this novel idea...if they kill this man...then we kill those that called for his death.
what a great idea. then we can be just like them.
what do you think separates Christianity from Islam, einstein?"
the difference you moron is Murder or Killed. Murder is the UNJUST death of another. Killing is JUSTIFIED death of another. Scripture says "Thou Shall Not MURDER". Time to quit reading the Liberal version of scripture.
Done being SCHOOLED yet?
That is, Americans became the new German and Japanese leadership elites.
That's what I said, in general, always yappens. Any Souvrn'r can tell you about it too.
Proposed speech by a POTUS to be delivered in Afghanistan to the Afghan parliament.
Today I have been told that one of your citizens is to be killed, by your government, because he chose to change his religion. I have also been told that at least one of your judges has declared this man insane, because he chooses to change his religion.
In the United States we have people who represent every major religion in the world and most of the minor ones as well. We cannot decree that they must be a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew, or hold any other faith and we cannot decree that they cannot be a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew or anything else. They must chose or not. It is a choice between them and God, as only they find themself so led to that choice by God and only God.
It is also, a fact, that in the Quran, just as in the tenets of Christianity or Judaism, that a person's religious belief cannot be compelled; it must be chosen or it is not a faith that the person has accepted. Compulsion is no more than following a secular legal command carried out by a government and not a personal adoption of faith by either reason, persuasion or any true belief on the part of the individual.
The United States, its citizens and its armed forces, released Afghanistan from the tyranny of the Taliban and gave your nation the opportunity to choose and develop your own government using democratic means, as opposed to force of arms by one faction or another. We did not demand any religious compulsion from us to you in the adoption of the constitution for that government. And the men and women, our men and women, who fought to provide that opportunity for you, represented all the faiths practiced in our nation.
Now, you seek to tell us that a man who choses, freely, to follow a path to God different from a path he previously chose is insane.
In our view, the concept that he does not have the right to chose his faith is the insanity.
Therefore, I came here today to tell you:
I have put all our forces on 24 hour alert, to the possibility that they will, all, every single one of them, leave your nation in a very short time, as short a time as possible.
They will leave if the man you seek to murder for his relgious conversion is in fact murdered by your government.
Not only will our men and women leave, they will take anything and everything of ours with them. Not only will they leave but we will not support any of our coalition partners who might seek to stay without us and we will not continue any form of interchange or support to you after we leave.
Some, most, predict that, upon our departure, the Taliban, the foreign Al Queda fighters and your war lords will again make war amongst themselves and among you and again bring your nation to complete ruin; or at least it will seem. You will have brought it on yourself, and we will not try to prevent it.
Some, most, predict that the future would then see your nation as the launching point for terrorist attacks against us, as it was on September 11, 2001. We agree that there is good likelyhood of that and that in spite of our best efforts, they will, in some manner, at least once, succeed.
We will not be back here again when they do; at least you will not see our forces here as you did when we routed the Taliban.
But, force we will use.
We will wait for the attack to come and when it does we will come back here, from the sky, and we will turn every square inch of your nation, from border to border to border, into one continuous molten rock.
We await your decision.
this is a precious rant.
you don't teach sunday school, do?
I realize that, and again, the reason were were able to nation-build in those particular cases is because of their relatively civilized cultures. ....precisely the reason why the task is next to impossible in Islamic countries.
All muslims must die for there to be a relatively peaceful world.
Allah must be a pretty weak and thin-skinned guy if he can't handle Mere Christianity.
In the spirit of the culture, let's send in a squad of "insurgents" to kidnap Rahman and threaten to let him live unless those Muslim factions in the know give up the Al Qaeda leadership.
Then when they do so, double-cross them and whisk him out of Afghanistan anyway...
"Gort, Klaatu islama nuko"
And Osama says..."sorry, I did that last night. Tonite, I'm busy tidying up the cave."
Deposing the Taliban accomplishes nothing, so long as Muslim "law" remains in effect. Bush needs to airlift this guy out tonight and bring him to the White House for a ceremony, then go to church with him. Let the maggots go nuts and kill each other over it.
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