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Afghan Clerics Demand Convert Be Killed
AP ^ | March 23 2006 | DANIEL COONEY

Posted on 03/23/2006 1:23:54 PM PST by jmc1969

Senior Muslim clerics demanded Thursday that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."

"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; islam; islamofacsism; religionofpeace; ropma
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To: jmc1969

So, what was that about Islam being a "religion of peace"? And that guy calling for the death of the man who convert to Christianity is a moderate? So much for that garbage that the moderates of Islam are the "real" face of the religion. This guy sounds like the so-called "extremists".


41 posted on 03/23/2006 1:40:10 PM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Bush needs to make a quick phone call to Hamid right now and end this. That is if he wants his party to win the 2006 elections. This is ridiculous.




Every time he says the phrase "religion of peace" I just start laughing. It's either laugh or vomit.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 1:40:16 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: muawiyah

neither are most of Iranians, but ever since the arabs bum rushed that region and forced everyone to convert to Islam, they are all now one and the same.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 1:40:51 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Borges
"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate"


It gets worse.
There is a guy running as a Republican for congress in Kalifornia.
He's spouting all the "right" conservative party line mumbo jumbo (far too well), but won't answer the question..."are you a muslim?"
We don't need a muslim mole in political office.
44 posted on 03/23/2006 1:41:03 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (ACLU = heterophobic, Ameriphobic, brainophobic (CAUTION: I made up some of these words))
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To: khnyny

Excellent point. And the Pharisees were just as spiritually lost as the Muslims.


45 posted on 03/23/2006 1:41:58 PM PST by griz74 (griz74)
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To: Sister_T

convert=converted


46 posted on 03/23/2006 1:43:11 PM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: jmc1969

"Rejecting Islam is insulting God."

This is the genie in the bottle we released - the true face of Islam. Islam has only ONE face - a bad one.

The U.S. should make it perfectly clear that human rights violations, including violations of freedom of religion will simply NOT be tolerated in any of our client states - including Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Iraq.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 1:44:30 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: jmc1969

How maddening.


48 posted on 03/23/2006 1:45:19 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Star Traveler
What is most amazing is that Afghans were doing this sort of thing even way back in the days when bunches of them were Hindus and Buddhists.

You must learn to read between the lines to differentiate between "culture" and "religion" in this part of the world.

Think of them as the nastiest, most clanish, duplicitous, dishonest and sneaky hillbillies you've ever met or heard about.

This is the place the Assyrians took Israel too ~ and Alexander the Great found a wife who could ride horses, hunt, use a rope and a spear, and was flatchested ~ his kinda' girl (although I've seen thousands of others around here from there and they look like normal girls).

They do respond to power, which is why I suggested Karzai taking the clerics out and executing them. It'll get the Americans off his back (about the religion thing) and also get rid of the noisiest, most troublesome of the clerics. Besides, these people are Sunni and they are not supposed to have clerics, so time to purify their mode of worship!

49 posted on 03/23/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: dblshot

I've posted this a couple of times before but at moments like this it begs to be posted again.


Still true a hundred years later. Amazing!

Sir Winston Churchill @ age 24 (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green | 1899


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism[72 virgins, I'm assuming] deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."


50 posted on 03/23/2006 1:46:25 PM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: boomop1
These people don't deserve our protection.

We shouldn't be in the nation-building/policing business, especially in Islamic countries (where the chance of success is dim at best). Our armed forces are not peacekeepers, they're warriors. If we believe a regime is a threat, then destroy its military might and kill its leadership. Leave the nation-building to the survivors. If they're wise they'd build a nation that behaves, as they'd have first-hand knowledge of the consequences if they don't.

51 posted on 03/23/2006 1:47:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: jmc1969

So if Islam has its way and takes over the US, we will all be forced to convert to Islam. That is the way they want it! This cult religion needs to be taken out but it continues to try to dominate the world. Looks like the return to the Crusades is in order.


52 posted on 03/23/2006 1:51:37 PM PST by cmiller623 (Mayor Antonio Villa....or never mind. Los Angeles is doomed!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Usually once you destroy the leadership elite in a nation, one will arrive from a different nation and take over.

The survivors simply live on, but now in abject poverty.

Afghanistan has been through this recently ~ the Soviets came in and crushed the country. Then they left ~ the Afghans thrashed about killing yet more millions and then AlQaida came in.

Osama Bin Laden took Afghanistan into very dangerous waters ~ so we crushed them again.

It's time to put a stop to this cycle.

53 posted on 03/23/2006 1:53:10 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: griz74
>Excellent point. And the Pharisees were just as spiritually lost as the Muslims.

Muslim leaders aren't the only new "Pharisees". There are many in a lot of "modern" religions blindly taking their converts down a ditch. (Including many, So Called, Christian leaders)..

54 posted on 03/23/2006 1:56:33 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition...)
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To: Wuli
Afghanistan has never left the 7th century, and their clerics like it that way.

So if someone rounds up the clerics and "gets medieval on their ass" they'd still be a few centuries ahead?

55 posted on 03/23/2006 1:57:36 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: MattinNJ
That's ok they are our allies. In fact, when their done hanging this infidel maybe they can work at our ports. We wouldn't want to seem like a bunch of xenophobic racists and send our friends in the muslim world the wrong message.

Great retort! I'll check back later to see if any of the pro-Dubai Hamiltonians have replied to it.


jla: belives all American ports should be managed by Americans...only.

56 posted on 03/23/2006 1:58:35 PM PST by jla
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To: jmc1969
...they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."

See, Islam really is a religion of piece.

57 posted on 03/23/2006 2:00:37 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: paguch

I for one think that the classical ARMAGEDDON scenario is the one where infidels and Muslims of all nations fight the battle of extinction.....


58 posted on 03/23/2006 2:01:08 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: the invisib1e hand
what do you think separates Christianity from Islam, einstein?

Ooh, ooh, I know! The fact that one is in rapid decline while the other is experiencing exponential growth!

59 posted on 03/23/2006 2:03:46 PM PST by Omedalus
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To: jmc1969
It seems "Democracy" means different things in other parts of the world.
60 posted on 03/23/2006 2:05:16 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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