Posted on 03/23/2006 12:28:28 PM PST by Crackingham
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton invoked the Bible yesterday to criticize a stringent border security measure that, among other things, would make it a federal crime to offer aid to illegal immigrants.
"It is hard to believe that a Republican leadership that is constantly talking about values and about faith would put forth such a mean-spirited piece of legislation," she said of the measure, which was passed by the House of Representatives in December and mirrored a companion Senate bill introduced last week by Senator Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican and the majority leader.
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself," she said. "We need to sound the alarm about what is being done in the Congress."
Mrs. Clinton, who is running for re-election this year and is leading in polls for the Democratic presidential nomination, spoke at a news conference in Manhattan with more than 30 immigrant leaders after meeting with them privately.
The meeting took place in an atmosphere of mounting urgency, as the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops called on its flock to oppose the measure, and tens of thousands of immigrants around the country stepped up a series of protest rallies in anticipation of a Senate vote on competing immigration bills next week.
Mr. Frist's bill, like the House measure, would make it a crime to be in the United States without proper papers and would add guards and fencing along the Mexican border, and speed deportation.
Some versions, including one proposed by Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, would expand the definition of alien smuggling to include help to illegal immigrants already here.
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I have read that in my Bible - I also have posted it several times on these anti-immigration threads - thanks for answering my question though. Did you know that HR 4437 would make it illegal for the Church to offer an illegal alien a hot meal and shelter for the night?
Did you read HR 4437 section I quoted above?
I will definitely weigh anything I find against the Truth of Scripture - thanks.
I think Jesus put it quite well.
"Give to Caeser what is Caeser's, and to God what is God's."
If the government enacts an immigration plan to cut down on illegal immigration, then that is the business of Caeser.
not a valid argument, scripturally. In scriptures, all secular laws except denying God were to be obeyed.
I challenge you to find scripture to the contrary.
Whether is was Jesus Himself or Paul writing to the Romans or the Hebres or the Corinthians, clearly Christians are called to righteousness - and righteousness includes LEGAL civil deportment.
I'm at a loss for words. This is just so ridiculous.
LMAO @ this idiot! Exactly WTH does either Clinton know about morals, scruples, principles, etc?????
Perhaps you would understand if you read this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601472/posts?page=355#355
Yeah, sure. The first time anyone is prosecuted for something like that will be the last time the Federal prosecutor who pursues the case will be employed.
That's what I was saying in my post. What were you reading it as?
Not if Tom Tancredo get elected President ; )
I've read 4437. I didn't see that wording. Please point it out.
Here is how I would handle the situation if I ran across an illegal alien seeking help. If he's hungry, I will feed him. If he is being harmed and is innocent, I will defend him. If he is injured, I will dress his wounds. If he is cold, I will give him shelter.
Then, I'll call ICE and demand he be sent home. And so should the church.
The answer is clear:
First of all, the point and purpose of the Church allegedly is to worship God, preach the Gospel, disciple the new believers and prepare the saints, not undermine government authority.
The purpose of the individual believer is to do all of the above plus those Golden Rule things. Note that the individual is also admonished not to work against the Authorities.
Now as you act as a classic liberal deconstructionalist in corrupting what is meant by "helping", redefining what is meant by "church" and introducing relative morality in the glossing over of a criminal act by glibly saying "regardless of their immigration status" you demonstrate a manifest hostility towards the true Gospel by your insulting caricature of it in the same manner and spirit as Mrs. Bill Clinton mangled it.
Since Romans 13 confirms that authority of the governing agency by declaring that they are placed in position by God for God's own Purposes, and since the Church at large is told to be obedient to these authorities (as difficult as it may be at times), then there is no place for you, or anyone else to take a clear command of God and make it optional based on feelings.
If the Government were to "criminalize" a particular act of "helping" - they are within their Rights as ordained by God to do so - regardless of your or my opinion.
If you feel that the law is unjust and goes against Scripture, you are fully within your rights to violate that law under whatever rational you provide understanding that while consciously violating that law you are also subject to the punishments that accompany your disobedience.
She did it again...... I think she departed from her script and went a bridge to far. Her script was good samaritan and she couldn't help bringing Jesus in to the statement.
I bet her handlers were really pissed at her lack of self control
Not at all - I am ready to go to jail for it.
I posted the quote and link above - if you can't find it by tomorrow, let me know. Bye.
To me, it is the epitome of phony piety and should be avoided like the plague.
That's nice. You go to jail where you effectively become a burden on society and all of your charitable works come to an end and we'll make sure the illegals get deported and that any criminal agencies that organized to assist the illegals get shut down under RICO.
These religious organizations aren't opposing this proposed law because they are afraid of being prosecuted for accommodating illegal aliens at soup kitchens, shelters, etc. They are opposed to it because they realize that it will basically prohibit them from "helping" these illegal aliens gain access to taxpayer-funded government services. That's probably about 95% of what they do (Catholic Charities is a classic example of this), and that doesn't fit any objective or Scriptural definition of the word "charity."
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