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Public intoxication stings catch 2,200 in Texas bars
chron.com ^ | 3/23/06 | Anne Marie Kilday

Posted on 03/23/2006 8:18:08 AM PST by takenoprisoner

More than 2,200 people have been arrested in Texas bars in the six months since the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission announced a crackdown on public intoxication, primarily targeting bars.

The arrests included people who were drunk in bars, who sold alcohol to a drunk person, or a drunk employee on the premises of a bar or restaurant with a license to sell alcohol, said Carolyn Beck, a spokeswoman for the TABC.

The commission has been responsible for enforcing the state's alcoholic beverage code for the past 70 years. In August, 2005, the agency announced it was beginning a crackdown on public intoxication, using both undercover and open operations.

The agency has used undercover agents before, Beck said. In a recent operation, agents infiltrated 36 bars in a Dallas suburb and arrested 30 people for public intoxication.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
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To: takenoprisoner

That'll teach those bar patrons.. next time they are going to get drunk they should just go through the drive-thru liquor stores. :)


101 posted on 03/23/2006 9:10:58 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: steel_resolve
What if they have a designated driver? Or if they get so drunk, they decide to walk home? I am suprised you're for this when it is happening in your state.

I have no tolerance for drunks. We aren't talking about a few drinks and getting a little buzzed we are talking about staggering, falling down slurring drunks.

Most who don't have a designated driver or have the sense to call a cab.

These PI laws are not new and it isn't just Texas. It just to happens right now that we are discussing an article about Texas.

102 posted on 03/23/2006 9:11:50 AM PST by Texas Mom (When they kill enough of us will we finally start profiling??)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
A bar or restaurant is not a public place; it is private property. A home or apartment complex is not private property, nor an automobile. Whatever happened to the Fourth Amendment and the right to be free of unreasonable searches? Whatever happened until waiting until there is probable cause, such as driving a motor vehicle in an irresponsible manner?

At best, these crackdowns are examples of unwarranted government intrusion into private matters. I must wonder if there is not a hidden agenda of effectively shutting down alcohol sales in bars and restaurants. Smoking is essentially prohibited in most places outside of private homes. Perhaps alcohol is the next target.

What is hypocritical are these pseudo-conservatives who are really authoritarians who post on FR defending any and every abuse of government power. What the Texas Alcohol Beverage Control Board is doing is as much unwarranted government intrusion as any "hate speech" or "speech code" ordinance.

103 posted on 03/23/2006 9:12:00 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: takenoprisoner

Our new "Republican majority" in Texas government at work.
They are mostly Democrats with R's after their names, and have added new meaning of government intrusion into our lives. They have raised fees for every concievable state service and increased the state budget by about 15 billion or so, but hey don't worry they say they are from the government and are here to help us.


104 posted on 03/23/2006 9:12:12 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: takenoprisoner

Texas is always pushing a "designated driver" program. if you go out and get drunk, with someone staying sober to drive, and you still get arrested, what's the point? is the arrest point for being drunk the same as driving drunk?


105 posted on 03/23/2006 9:13:04 AM PST by TWfromTEXAS
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To: steel_resolve

(I would refuse, let them arrest me)



Now thats funny.


106 posted on 03/23/2006 9:13:44 AM PST by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: River_Wrangler

According to the article, these stings were staged to prevent DWI.


107 posted on 03/23/2006 9:15:18 AM PST by Roccus
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To: massgopguy

There is no objective standard for public intoxication as there is for DWI; the sole arbiter of "drunk" is the arresting officer.


108 posted on 03/23/2006 9:15:24 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: takenoprisoner

Someone had better mess with Texas real soon. It's like they're vying with California and New York for being the state most restrictive of individual liberty.


109 posted on 03/23/2006 9:16:05 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Texas Mom

Just out of curiosity, would you support a reinstatement of Prohibition?


110 posted on 03/23/2006 9:16:42 AM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

What a ridiculous position to take; I might as well tell you that if you want to be obnoxious, you ought to do it where I am not forced to see it.


111 posted on 03/23/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: ProfoundMan
Better to stay home and drink and smoke until they make their way there too (in about what, a year or two?)

Only if you start beating you wife and or kids or or shooting up the neighborhood or maybe an ambulance has to be called to carry your drunk butt to the hospital for alcohol poisoning.

I guess after years as a paramedic and working emergency rooms I just have little sympathy for people who let alcohol control them and can't control it.

Sorry I can't hang around and spar with ya'll but I have a doctors appointment in 1 1/2 hours.

112 posted on 03/23/2006 9:17:37 AM PST by Texas Mom (When they kill enough of us will we finally start profiling??)
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To: Junior_G

Drunk in public is drunk in public, i have no problem with this.


113 posted on 03/23/2006 9:18:01 AM PST by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: Justanobody
These people weren't driving. They were sitting at a bar. How do you know they weren't going to call a cab or didn't have a designated driver? Nope, evidently in your world people are guilty until proven innocent.

Welcome to the fascist police state.

114 posted on 03/23/2006 9:18:06 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: takenoprisoner
Public intoxication Revenue Generation stings catch 2,200 in Texas bars

There, fixed.

115 posted on 03/23/2006 9:19:24 AM PST by rattrap
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To: Roccus

You are of course quite correct. State and local governments have quite the tradition of unjust revenue-generation methods at the expense of innocent citizens.


116 posted on 03/23/2006 9:19:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: Graycliff

They weren't in public (property owned by the government). They were in private establishments. Technically, if the cops can arrest them for being drunk in a privately-owned bar, they can arrest them for being drunk in their houses.


117 posted on 03/23/2006 9:20:53 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: takenoprisoner

2,200x$500=$1.1M


118 posted on 03/23/2006 9:21:46 AM PST by CSM (Lick a finger, politicize the wind, and place the finger into the wind. - EGPWS, 1/26/2006)
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To: eastforker

TABC has gone nuts here in Texas.

My son ran a resturant here in Texas. An undercover sting operation was going on. A waitress served a customer 2 beers within an hour. TABC went over and arrested the customer and closed the restaurant down for 28 days. TRUE STORY!


119 posted on 03/23/2006 9:22:04 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: thoughtomator

If they make enough laws, there will be no innocent citizens


120 posted on 03/23/2006 9:22:10 AM PST by Roccus
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