Posted on 03/22/2006 5:14:34 AM PST by Born Conservative
Pupils launch bid to save Americans $2.3B in electric costs; seek Oprah's help in plan to dole out lightbulbs
Qiana Marks and 200 other North Babylon students hope to save the Earth - and also save the American public $2.3 billion in electric costs.
It's all part of a campaign begun yesterday in the Robert Moses Middle School to "fight global warming one lightbulb at a time," said Kenny Luna, eighth-grade science teacher.
Luna and his students want to give an energy-saving compact fluorescent lightbulb to every school child in America, "all 50 million between pre-kindergarten and 12th grade."
They're asking TV star Oprah Winfrey to help spread the word.
CFL bulbs use an average 75 percent less energy than normal lightbulbs. If every student changed one bulb, the saving at $46 per bulb would add up to $2.3 billion, Luna calculated.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...
I have not been. In fact, of the 30 or so that I have purchased in the last 5 years, only 2 have ever burned out. I use them in places I dont want to be changing bulbs often (outside, high ceilings, etc), but also in places where lights are often left on, bathrooms, basements, garages. I have not measured their true lifespan, but I suspect it is at least 5000 hours.
I didn't know Germany gave a rat's ass about US energy policy. I read a report some time ago about the effects of florescent light on the moods of humans. Google it yourself, Der Funnyboy!
Which is nowhere near what their "rated" lifespan is supposed to be. An incandescent is around 1500 hours. According to GE, a "compact fluorescent is supposed to last "7 years or 10000 hours". Mine rarely last one or two years. Given the cost difference between incandescents and compact fluorescents, the CF aren't worth it. Now, it's "nice" to save energy, but what I want is bulbs that LAST.
We use 110V LED lights where I work for hard to reach, industrial applications. The light spectrum varies by type. Sometimes very white other time more yellow. And there very expensive. The bulbs we use cost between $40-$80 each. And there lumen output is much lower than an average incandecent lamp.
I am willing to listen to arguments about human contribution to climate change. The problem I have is the no-compromise stand taken by the environmental movement. Their only solution to this problems is to turn our wealth and sovereignty over to the UN and ban the industrial revolution. Nuclear is out of the question. They talk a good talk on wind and other renewables, but someone goes to implement it they are in court suing to stop it.
Kudos...my two grade school sons are getting the same lessons at home...sadly the teachers are gobbling up the U.N. global warming non-sense. Making their heads explode is icing on the cake.
Yeah, they have a bit less mercury. And the manufacturing related pollution happens elsewhere...
If you truly believe in the 'good idea' in your tagline, you will understand that The Creator is in control of all things, especially those we did not create (universe, air, water, sun, etc).
The entire global warming agenda is driven by those who believe that man is superior to God, or that God does not exist. They are the leaders. If you do not believe in their agenda, then you are merely a follower of theirs.
Guten Nacht!
These lamps give me a headache. They last maybe twice as long as incandescent bulbs and give off much less heat, but the 60-cycle flicker sometimes is bothersome.
Seen the wind-up LED flashlight?
It's 29 this afternoon. Warmest in a month. It will probably snow.
One year at 12 hours a day is all I have come to expect.
"The title says it all. They are promoting junk science."
The website debunks all the propaganda of those like you who promote junk science.
Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html
Late Carboniferous to Early Permian time (315 mya -- 270 mya) is the only time period in the last 600 million years when both atmospheric CO2 and temperatures were as low as they are today (Quaternary Period ).
There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today. For example, during the Jurassic Period (200 mya), average CO2 concentrations were about 1800 ppm or about 4.8 times higher than today. The highest concentrations of CO2 during all of the Paleozoic Era occurred during the Cambrian Period, nearly 7000 ppm -- about 19 times higher than today.
The Carboniferous Period and the Ordovician Period were the only geological periods during the Paleozoic Era when global temperatures were as low as they are today. To the consternation of global warming proponents, the Late Ordovician Period was also an Ice Age while at the same time CO2 concentrations then were nearly 12 times higher than today-- 4400 ppm. According to greenhouse theory, Earth should have been exceedingly hot. Instead, global temperatures were no warmer than today. Clearly, other factors besides atmospheric carbon influence earth temperatures and global warming.
Darn it! Everyone was ignoring that point perfectly well until you came along and pointed that out. Even the "Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time" chart shows little if any correlation between CO2 levels and temperature. It's the levels at 5,000 ppm and above that you really have to watch out for. You'll go to sleep and not wake up at those levels.
I was tempted to fill an entire page with references, data and logic to refute the "anthropogenic enhanced climate change" nonsense, but I've done that repeatedly in the past and it just gets tiresome. Some people just love the Kool-Aid, especially those German folk who preach the mantra of "sustainable everything" on their "About" page. You'll find similarly worded dreck on the CPUSA website and various other places where socialist, greenies and other liberal "progressive" weenies run amok.
As for compact fluorescent lamps, I've been using them in my home for over 5 years now and I delighted to the noticeable drop in my electric bill. No mood swings and so far, every lamp is still working. Stay away from the cheap lamps that don't have a "warm" light output. The good ones emit about the same spectrum as an incandescent bulb does. Also, don't put them in cold areas and don't use them in locations where you might frequently turn them on and off and on again. They don't like that and they don't like power spikes. They also don't tolerate operating in unventilated lighting fixtures. Their lifespan is also affected by the position in which they are used (vertical, horizontal). They last longest when used facing straight up as in an ordinary table lamp.
My guess is 5000, based on, well basically based on your poor results. Mine are still burning brightly, so I dont know. There are a couple other advantages, and another reason I use them is that they create less heat, and thus less load on the A/C system, which is important down here in South Florida. I but them at 6 for $10, which is worth it in my opinion.
WHERE do you find them at that price?? As I recall, the last ones I bought were nearly $10 EACH. For THAT price, they "would" be worth it.
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