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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: najida
Either all kids are precious, or we let them all go.

I respect your feelings.

But I believe in treating boys and girls differently, when they are different.

And they *are* different about sex. If this were my son, I would not in any way consider him a 'victim'.

241 posted on 03/21/2006 12:55:50 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: mountaineer1997

I just showed my 16 year old daughter the pic of the teacher.


She said any 14 y/o boy that "wouldn't" ought to have his hetero license revoked.


242 posted on 03/21/2006 12:56:01 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: Rodney King
You really don't know guys. Guys brag about things to each other that they would never tell their wives. Not to say it's right or wrong, just that you are really out of your league in discussing guys's states of mind.

I am a guy. I don't tell my wife certain things, that is true. But since I am a guy I am offended by being told that I'm out of my league.

Cordially,

243 posted on 03/21/2006 12:56:17 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Dominic Harr
He might not tell his bride, in fear of her being upset.

LOL....don't think the newspaper articles mailed to her about it all will upset her?

244 posted on 03/21/2006 12:56:21 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Riverman94610
but here I am 58 years old and as alienated and without a clue about woman as I was in Seventh Grade!

Sounds like you should get back on drugs.

245 posted on 03/21/2006 12:56:22 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Abathar

You're absolutely right! And yes, I did raise 3 fine boys, now in their 20's who are more interested in their work and school and establishing their careers than screwing any girl who walks in their pathway. I made dang sure they knew their lives would be wrecked if they ever got anyone pregnant. Boys can learn to say no too. But you're right, this heinous little beatch needs some jail time to cool her off.


246 posted on 03/21/2006 12:56:47 PM PST by derllak
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To: trubluolyguy

She said any 14 y/o boy that "wouldn't" ought to have his hetero license revoked.


ROTFLMAO....


Funny girl.


247 posted on 03/21/2006 12:57:42 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: dinoparty

And if a 14-year old girl is seduced by a woman?


248 posted on 03/21/2006 12:58:31 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: YankeeGirl
Assuming no one was caught or got knocked up, why would a girl regret a fling with a hot hs teacher and a boy wouldn't?

Certianly not 100% of the time, but I'm lead to believe that that's the way women are. They regret the ones that didn't "work out".

But guys, not so much.

And I don't remember any pairing in school of teachers/students. But school was 30 years ago for me.

I agree, we've set the age of consent for boys higher. But again, I just don't see how it's possible to call this boy a 'victim'.

249 posted on 03/21/2006 12:58:53 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Abathar

Imagine the ordeal this youngster had to endure to have sex with her. He'll now spend the next forty years trying to repeat it. ;-)


250 posted on 03/21/2006 12:59:13 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: stands2reason
And if a 14-year old girl is seduced by a woman?

Interesting hypothesis.. this is more complicated. Now it expands to 1. Is the teacher hot? 2. Is the student hot? 3. Do they let guys watch?

251 posted on 03/21/2006 12:59:40 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dominic Harr
I'm a guy. He won't feel ashamed, believe me.

Didja ever think you might be doing a little projecting here ... assuming that your ethics and standards are common to everyone.

I, for one, don't think that living in a world where

He might not tell his bride, in fear of her being upset.

is a good basis for starting a lifelong commitment. Or that on my wedding day I was fondly remembering any of my previous sexual encounters

He *will* remember it at his wedding day, and for the rest of his life -- fondly.

Another sign post in your world:

I just don't believe you can call this boy a 'victim', I'm sorry.

In your world there is no way this kid can be a victim because:

1. She was attractive
2. He was a male

and we all know (you're projecting again) that guys are different than gals. One of the biggest differences is how we feel about sex.

What I'm reading between the lines here is that, in your world, the "guys" can't keep their zippers up and the "gals" that don't require them to will be "fondly remembered".

Sounds to me like a pretty shallow world, I'll think stick with mine.

252 posted on 03/21/2006 1:00:03 PM PST by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: Shalom Israel
Because when a girl has sex, her emotions are involved. Not so with boys.

DING DING DING! You win the prize.

253 posted on 03/21/2006 1:00:07 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Dominic Harr

Again,
You're arguing from the POV as a father of a daughter and as a man with attitudes and ideas about what is sexual and correct for different genders.

I'm willing to be the farm that if I talked to the wives and daughters of your two friends, I'd hear a different story of behaviors, attitudes, respect etc. Again, I'm a ghost looking in from the other side of the window.

As a woman,
I know at 14 I would have been just like that boy if the right teacher had given me a second look. Just keep in mind what the root of all this 'boy/girl/good/bad sex' is.

It's not about sex at all.


254 posted on 03/21/2006 1:00:15 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Riverman94610
I read 215, and I couldn't help but think that our legal system, from the President on down, does give special privileges to some groups and not to others. Can you imagine what would happen to a white anglo-saxon male if he decided he would rather live in a mansion across town and just moved in, then went to that town's government and demanded health care, schooling for his children, and welfare checks to boot? Now take a similar situation, when some Mexican decides that moving across the border is preferential to living in their own self made rat hole of a country, they move in and demand services, but in this instance the boss won't prosecute the criminal.

What is up with that?
255 posted on 03/21/2006 1:00:26 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: MeanWestTexan
"But the boy, at 14, should have the chance to be the exception without regrets."

Why? This situation, if he does find Jesus latter on, he can blame the teacher. He will have no regrets over this incident. What will be harder for him overcome is when he sleeps with girls his own age in the very near future. He won't have anyone to blame but himself for that.

How did you manage to forgive yourself for "Screwed around a lot in HS/College/Army."

Whatever you did, I guess he will have to do the same.
256 posted on 03/21/2006 1:00:36 PM PST by monday
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To: MeanWestTexan
Basically, with age, he was less likely to say "yes" to her advances.

That has not been my experience, personally.

I agree that 14 year old boys should be discouraged from having sex, cuz of the risk of pregnancy, etc.

But when a 14 year old *does* have sex, I don't agree he's a victim. I think he's a perp. He knew what he was doing. He did it willingly. If this were my son, he'd be in trouble for messing with a married woman.

I'd not consider him a 'victim' at all.

257 posted on 03/21/2006 1:01:09 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

ROTFLMAO!

Somehow, just hearing Yoda weigh in adds...some...thing!


258 posted on 03/21/2006 1:01:46 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: monday

So is it okay if she doesn't have her period yet?


259 posted on 03/21/2006 1:01:52 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Rodney King; Riverman94610

"Sounds like you should get back on drugs."

That was about as asine and irresponsible thing I've ever read on FR.


260 posted on 03/21/2006 1:01:57 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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