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Lacking basis, Christians fight abortion
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^
| 3/20/06
| C. Joshua Villines
Posted on 03/20/2006 2:23:32 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
This entire article is NOTHING but rationalization.
You MAY be fooling yourself Reverend, but you don't fool us.
To: madprof98
This fool apparently does not have a clue what the bible says:
Exodus Chapter 21:
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
In the case of abortion the "mischeif" spoken of in the verse is pre-meditated...so the punishment should be life for life.
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posted on
03/20/2006 4:20:53 PM PST
by
Mogollon
To: madprof98
An ordained United Church of Christ pastor, he is completing a
doctorate degree at Vanderbilt University.
IIRC, the United Church of Christ (formerly Congregationalists?)
lost nearly half of their membership over the last 40 years.
Surely that couldn't be partly attributed to abortion of potential
future congregants...
(end sarcasm)
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posted on
03/20/2006 4:21:27 PM PST
by
VOA
To: cgk
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posted on
03/20/2006 4:24:47 PM PST
by
confederate_infidel
(Buckle up...it makes it harder for aliens to suck you out of your car!)
To: confederate_infidel
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posted on
03/20/2006 4:42:49 PM PST
by
moog
To: ziggygrey
Both sides should get behind a "save the unborn" movement, if we all decided to end miscarriage, like we eradicated smallpox or polio. An estimated 1/4 to 1/3 of the preborns are aborted spontaneously..that's 1-2 million preborn babies a year! We wouldn't stand idly by if a million children a year died of a new strand of smallpox. Is there a difference between a man that drops dead of a heart attack and one who is killed deliberately by another?
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posted on
03/20/2006 4:49:02 PM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: madprof98
I hate when flaming atheists masquerade as Christian pastors. Of course, my hatred is nothing compared to what they have waiting for them.
To: madprof98; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; ...
Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!
Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:02:20 PM PST
by
cgk
(I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
To: confederate_infidel
Thank you for the ping! :)
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:02:35 PM PST
by
cgk
(I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
To: madprof98; BOBWADE
An ordained United Church of Christ pastorThis tells me that the United Church of Christ supports murder. It keeps getting worse and worse.
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:19:23 PM PST
by
zip
((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))))
To: madprof98
To: madprof98
The "grid" through which this young man views things has, no doubt, been molded by the institutions which have indoctrinated him. His personal web page contains a "homilies" section (including a touching one honoring his grandmother), as well as a "writings" section. Of special political note among his featured writings are these:
"Rethinking What It Means to Be a Democrat" - November 5, 2004, and
"Coping with the 2004 Election Results," which claims to be a "partial satire," but is it? These can be found
here.His newspaper challenges about when life begins, as well as his stand on the mother's right to destroy her child in the womb lead one to wonder how he interprets the words of Psalm 139: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mothers womb.
I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body."(Psa. 139:13-14).
More on these words and just some of the amazing new discoveries and technologies which bring new meaning to the words of Psalm 139 can be found here.
To: madprof98
A Buddhist against abortion. The Sutras emphatically state that life begins at conception. Good 'nuff for me. (As if I needed anyone to explain this great mystery.)
Abortion is not about saving womens lives! Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Adverse Effects
Total Abortions since 1973
45,951,133
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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)
The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.
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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing
· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby
· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child
· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)
· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career
· 7.9% of women want no (more) children
· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health
2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health
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So how many womens lives have been saved by abortion?
Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be due to a risk to maternal health. A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But lets say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.
Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.
Roe v Wade: FULL Text (The Decision that wiped out an entire Generation 33 years ago today)
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:32:27 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
To: MBB1984
How about contraception? Is that a murder as well? Where exactly is that line? It is rediculous some of you put as a clear black and white issue.
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:36:34 PM PST
by
Al Gallo
To: Al Gallo
Do I understand you to be saying that contraception is the equivalent of abortion?
IBTZ
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posted on
03/20/2006 5:43:39 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
To: madprof98
..the utterances of a cloud without water from the NCC...
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posted on
03/20/2006 6:01:15 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
To: madprof98
"The far right, however, has been able to set the issue of abortion apart from all of the other controversial, life-or-death decisions we make every day. Abortion is not a special case; and I pray that the guardians of our Constitution will continue to protect our freedom to choose our own priorities in all of these weighty matters."
The crap-wad Rev. that wrote this drivel has no idea of what it is to be a Christian.
You can't mix murdering innocent children in with caring for the poor or other social programs to justify it.
War and murdering children aren't something that can be related to one-another to justify it.
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posted on
03/20/2006 6:13:50 PM PST
by
Beagle8U
(An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
To: TigersEye
A Buddhist against abortion.Same here.
To: madprof98
where is the "barf" alert???
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posted on
03/20/2006 6:21:12 PM PST
by
Desert_Girl
(A scar is what happens when the world is made flesh)
To: Al Gallo
Why is birth considered the cutoff line? Why not infanticide?
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