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Nasa to put man on far side of moon
Times of London ^ | 3/18/06

Posted on 03/18/2006 4:10:56 PM PST by iPod Shuffle

The Sunday Times March 19, 2006

Nasa to put man on far side of moon Jonathan Leake , Science Editor NASA, the American space agency, has unveiled plans for one of the largest rockets ever built to take a manned mission to the far side of the moon.

It will ferry a mother ship and lunar lander into Earth orbit to link up with a smaller rocket carrying the crew. Once united they will head for the moon where the larger ship will remain in orbit after launching the lunar lander and crew.

The design emerged during a space science conference in Houston, Texas, last week. The plan is part of Nasa’s “Return to the Moon” programme set in motion by President George W Bush two years ago.

Under the project, up to four astronauts at a time will land on the far side of the moon to collect rock samples and carry out research, including looking for water that might one day support a lunar base.

The scale of the missions is much larger than the earlier Apollo programme, which is why Nasa will need two separate rockets to take the mother ship and crew into space.

Some missions will also see manned spacecraft landing in unexplored areas such as the lunar mountains and on the moon’s south and north poles.

John Connolly, manager of Nasa’s lunar lander project, said the system was designed to carry crews to almost every part of the moon’s surface.

“The samples they collect and the research they carry out will help solve many mysteries about the origins and composition of the moon and its suitability as a base,” he said.

The Apollo programme carried out six lunar landings between 1969 and 1972. The feat was a triumph, but the technical limitations of the Apollo craft, plus ignorance of lunar terrain, meant all six missions had to be sent to the moon’s plains.

These regions, all on the near side of the moon, were the only areas known to be flat enough for a safe landing. This has frustrated scientists because the samples collected by the six missions are all similar. They are also thought to be younger than lunar mountain rocks.

The far side — so called because it always faces away from the Earth — was first photographed in 1959 by a Russian probe. In 1968 the astronauts of Apollo 8 became the first to view it directly.

The evidence gathered by such missions was enough to deter any attempt to land because most of the far side appeared to be covered in large craters. Additionally, any craft landing there would be cut off from radio contact with Earth.

Connolly believes, however, that Nasa will be able to overcome such problems by sending a series of robotic probes ahead of the manned missions.

The first of these, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, to be launched in 2008, will map the moon’s surface in detail.

Cameras will photograph the surface, backed by a laser altimeter to create a three-dimensional relief map from which Nasa can identify landing sites.

Then, from 2010, a series of “companion lander” missions will carry out test landings on selected sites to see if they are worth a visit by humans.

The final element will be a system of communications satellites, dubbed the “lunar internet”, so astronauts will be able to relay signals to Earth from any part of the moon.

Connolly said the first humans could arrive as early as 2015, although 2018 was more likely. The agency would then aim to send two crews to the moon each year for up to five years. The programme will cost around £56 billion and may also be used to test technology for any future mission to Mars.

Some have questioned whether the programme will produce enough good science to justify the costs.

Manuel Grande, head of the planetary science group at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire, dismissed such fears. “Finding out more about the moon will help us understand where the Earth and moon came from,” he said. “There do not have to be good scientific reasons . . . It’s like going up Everest; we want to go to places like the moon and Mars just because they are there.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: astronomy; darksideofthemoon; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; lunation; lunations; moon; moonbase; nasa; pinkfloydwasright; space; spacex; spacexploration; themoon
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To: iPod Shuffle

Thanks for the link. It's refreshing to see something both non-political and interesting.


101 posted on 03/18/2006 6:51:41 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
NASA is part of the problem as long as it continues to exist. It is a waste of money and resources. Entitlements are as well, but every voting block has their favorite program because it's clear to one and all that government is a reservoir of other people's money that's up for the taking, not a way for preserving our freedoms and protecting our property. BTW, Sagan did say "billions and billions" at some brain-dead talk that I mostly slept through back when I was in school.
102 posted on 03/18/2006 6:54:38 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: CurlyBill; iPod Shuffle; Spruce
I think he, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter should be sent to the dark side of this planet.


103 posted on 03/18/2006 6:55:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: iPod Shuffle

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care

How much is this going to cost us?


104 posted on 03/18/2006 6:55:33 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Now is the time for all good customes agents in Tiajunna to come to the aid of their stuned beebers!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Car exhaust makes some beautiful harvest moons, doesn't it?


105 posted on 03/18/2006 7:00:16 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2


Sagan in his own words....

"I never said it. Honest. Oh, I said there are maybe 100 billion galaxies and 10 billion trillion stars. It's hard to talk about the Cosmos without using big numbers. I said "billion" many times on the Cosmos television series, which was seen by a great many people. But I never said "billions and billions." For one thing, it's too imprecise." - Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Billions & Billions


My post #6 already covers why NASA is so important.......
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598904/posts?page=6#6


106 posted on 03/18/2006 7:00:33 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

...and you just quoted Sagan saying "billions and billions".


108 posted on 03/18/2006 7:02:25 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
Your posts are b***s***.

Hahaha, don't edit yourself. Tell us what you really think. ;)
109 posted on 03/18/2006 7:06:30 PM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce
If you can't figure that out for yourself, you must be the sort of person who owns the entire 20 volume VHS edition of Cosmos and never laughs at scenes where Mr. Sagan is waxing eloquent in his favorite turtleneck.
110 posted on 03/18/2006 7:12:36 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Sagan in his own words....

"I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of Gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious [sic] in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I had found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics... . I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books."


This is such fun.
111 posted on 03/18/2006 7:17:49 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: iPod Shuffle; windcliff

Is that where Gary Larson got his ideas for his comic strip?


112 posted on 03/18/2006 7:17:56 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: iPod Shuffle

...so did Pink Floyd


113 posted on 03/18/2006 7:18:07 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: dr_who_2

Just trying to inject a bit if levity. Chill.


p.s. I DO own a copy of the book, but have never read the whole thing. Puts me to sleep every time. So It's not useless.



114 posted on 03/18/2006 7:19:19 PM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce

What do you think I'm trying to do?


115 posted on 03/18/2006 7:21:28 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: DoughtyOne
Someone accurately pointed out that we will make a more established trip this time, setting up at least temporary bases. Okay, well and good. It will be 2020, not 1980.

But you will have to take their word for it, since they are going to claim that they did it on the far side of the moon.

117 posted on 03/18/2006 7:25:07 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Damn, you would have to point that out. LMAO Good one.


119 posted on 03/18/2006 7:26:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Gary Larson got his ideas from God almighty.


120 posted on 03/18/2006 7:27:53 PM PST by dr_who_2
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