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Oriana Fallaci asks: Is Muslim immigration to Europe a conspiracy?
LA Weekly ^ | Wednesday, March 15, 2006 | BRENDAN BERNHARD

Posted on 03/16/2006 11:00:36 AM PST by Leisler

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To: Leisler
Fallaci speaks for the ordinary reader. There is no one she despises more than the intellectual “cicadas,” as she calls them — “You see them every day on television; you read them every day in the newspapers” — who deny they are in the midst of a cultural, political and existential war with Islam,

We call them "pundits!" LOL.

41 posted on 03/16/2006 12:50:55 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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To: Acts 2:38

I thought that made no sense as well.

This has more with the EU elitists wanting cheap labor to keep their socialist utopia alive.






42 posted on 03/16/2006 12:52:46 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Leisler
Must reading for everyone who doesn't want to be a dhimmi:

"Jihad In The West" by Paul Fregosi


Not an easy read, but makes it clear what is down the road for
those who don't fight back and win.
43 posted on 03/16/2006 12:59:41 PM PST by VOA
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To: La Enchiladita
Don't be too suprised - judging from a few articles that I've read this month, it looks like gays in America, of all people, are starting to get really nervous about this.

They know that under sharia, the jig is up. When we see an episode of "Will and Grace" dealing with a gay in a mosque, then we'll know that the battle has been joined . . .
44 posted on 03/16/2006 1:07:01 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: ConservativeDude

Agreed. I just read Dick Morris' latest article and he says the same thing.

Please see: http://www.vote.com/magazine/columns/dickmorris/column60382794.phtml


45 posted on 03/16/2006 1:09:36 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Peach; Calpernia; ConservativeDude
Kind of.

I actually think Sunnunu is much closer to being a Muslim than his colleague from Illinois.

Obama kind of reminds me of Roger Green, who'll deny to his dying day that he's a practicing Muslim, at least, in public.

Considering that this is New York City, I can't say I blame him.

46 posted on 03/16/2006 1:11:57 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Leisler

This guy is a prime example of why europe will become Eurabia.

The muslim hordes have learned to use the european human rights laws and take full advantage of its justice system to protect them. The socialists & multiculturists help them every step of the way. The same self-rightous socailists who bashed Schwartzenegger because he didn't stop the execution of murder and gang leader, Tookie Williams. Its these morons who are giving the muslims the keys to the city.

All they have to do is claim they will be tortured and killed if deported back to their home countries. Have the europeans ever stopped to say, "Why would you be killed if you went back there?"
Europeans human rights laws protect them while at the same time, they seek out the destruction of europe.

Europe has become a dumping ground for the worst psychotic muslim criminals and terrorists. People so foul, they are kicked out of hellholes like Libya and Sudan. But when they arrive, the europeans treat them as "refugees" looking for a better life.

What a mess.


47 posted on 03/16/2006 1:15:46 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: horse_doc

Good point!


48 posted on 03/16/2006 1:24:10 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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To: Leisler
Question: Is Muslim Immigration to Europe a Conspiracy?

Answer: YES!

49 posted on 03/16/2006 1:27:15 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Acts 2:38
And the Mexis will turn off the spigot if we build a fence?

That's no joke. We get most of our imported oil from Canada - 1.768 million barrels a day. Our second biggest oil supplier is Mexico with 1.701 million barrels a day. We get much more oil from Canada & Mexico than we do from the Arab countries.

I'd be willing to bet most Americans are not aware of this.

50 posted on 03/16/2006 1:40:11 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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What if they're mostly anti-white racists who feel a nationalistic imperative to kill us? Just asking.

Laughable claim. Considering that 1. Mexicans are racially mixed, with "white" among their gene pool 2. Generally hate blacks more than whites when the come here and 3. 1/3 of all Mexican American females, of ANY generation, intermarry with us gringos. Doesn't sound like the "anti-white nationalist" fantasy of yours.

51 posted on 03/16/2006 1:44:08 PM PST by Clemenza (Seattle: The Pesto of Cities --- George Costanza)
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To: Leisler

Europe depends on the Mohammedans and cannot do without them unless they begin wholesale importing of Mexicans or Chinese.The Europeans have chosen not to propagate and must have the immigrants to provide the wealth that will support the Europeans in their old age. The Saracen, however, will not do that. When Islam reaches some critical point, a "tipping point," then Mohammedans will make the rules and the rules will exclude the infidels from care and benefits.When Islam becomes ascendant and makes the rules not only will the infidels be cut off but the advent of sharia will signal a serious and irreversible economic decline. The old folks will have to rely on their progeny for care and survival and they foreswore progeny in their youth.


52 posted on 03/16/2006 1:44:21 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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How did Europe become home to an estimated 20 million Muslims in a mere three decades?

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Because satan never sleeps.

53 posted on 03/16/2006 1:44:37 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Sax
Europe is always surprised by creeping incrementalism. WWI & WWII. They notice things happening, but let them slide until it's too late

And America is not going to pull their chestnuts out of the fire this time.

54 posted on 03/16/2006 1:46:10 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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Europe takes in Muslims so they can keep getting Arab oil and we do the same with Mexico.

Yep, and I would never trade with them.

As birthrates continue to decline among Americans of European decent, it may well be that the final battle for the west will be fought primarily by Americans of Mexican decent. Hispanics are the fastest growing members of our armed forces. Tough as nails in a fight, macho and proud Americans.

We are going to have to re-open Ells Island to accommodate the next mass exodus of fleeing Europeans.

Europe is toast but the US has plenty of fight left in her.

To poorly paraphrase something President Lincoln said, “All the armies of the world could not step one foot on the Blue Ridge Mountains or take a drink from the Ohio River. If our end is to come it will be from within”.

I could not agree with Lincoln more and we all know who I am talking about.

55 posted on 03/16/2006 2:06:55 PM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: usurper

It could be any number of RATs or RINOs.


56 posted on 03/16/2006 2:18:04 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: an italian

ping


57 posted on 03/16/2006 2:19:20 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: satchmodog9; don-o; Acts 2:38; Mordacious; usurper

I don't think it's "hypocritical" to take a different attitude towards Muslim immigration than toward Mexican immigration. They are quite different. Compared with Muslims, Mexicans are, in my opinion, much to be preferred.

Mexicans are culturally Western (if not Northern): Spain being Western Europe, and Spanish and Portuguese being closely derived from Latin, the classical language of the West; and Central America being Western Hemisphere, and Christian for the past 400+ years.

Unlike Muslims, Mexicans are not culturally committed to polygamy; genital mutilation; the whipping of women who show their bare elbows and knees; the physical destruction of most of the art, music, and literature of the West; the sawing-off of the heads of apostates; and other ugly domestic and judicial behaviors based on the Hadiths and the Qu'ran.

Despite a tiny number of sillies-on-stilts who talk about "Aztlan" (mostly at a University near you), the vast majority of Mexican-Americans don't want anything even remotely resembling a worldwide racial or religious caliphate.

Suppose (and this is not theology, not prophecy, and certainly not politics, just a "supposal") suppose, --- since demography abhors a vacuum--- God is allowing us to experience the logical consequences of aborting 50,000,000 American babies, by replacing them one-for-one with Mexicans.

If that's the case, I'd say thank God that what we face, mostly, is more taxes, more crowded ER's, higher fertility, more day-laborers, more kindergarten kids, more salsa, more ai Chihuahua!, higher GNP, more fiestas, more Nuestra Senora and more Jesucristo--- and not jihad, dhimmitude, and Shari'a law.


58 posted on 03/16/2006 2:32:31 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Divine Mercy)
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Yeah, the white Mexican elite will shoot themselves in the foot just because we're going to build a fence.

They need our dollars far more than we need their oil.

They are not going to take a multi-billion dollar loss because we build a fence.


59 posted on 03/16/2006 2:34:41 PM PST by Sometimes A River (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46031)
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To: DumpsterDiver

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60 posted on 03/16/2006 2:37:17 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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